1 reactor?

[L A V A]

So if you have a reactor with gold stats for Skill Cooldown and Skill Duration Up... is that all you need?

Seems with cored guns and Arche Tuning, reactors are obsolete. What you do need is the right Descendant build and just max HP on your external components.

I know there can be some tweeking there, expecially with the components for bonuses, but it kinda seems that the double gold reactor works not only for gun builds but also for skill builds.

What ya'll think?

[L A V A]

Originally posted by Frostysir:

And gun descendants just want cooldown and duration, do not care about anything else typically. Doesnt even have to be a reactor of the right element.

Yep.

And I am trying to see if I can do essentially the same thing with skill Descendants with max Arche Turning and cored guns.

[penril_knight]

Originally posted by xTNPxSeal:

Originally posted by penril_knight:

Not sure why a big and loud part of the TFD player base does not understand a simple concept of leveling and gearing your characters in order to clear endgame content, I think most of them are used to or just want to play arcade like games where the characters you choose are already the best version the game can offer without having to do pretty much anything in order to play all the content in the game, instead of playing an rpg game where you have to build your characters up.

The biggest problem is the rng nature of this game because not everyone has the free time to play to get every part needed for a particular weapon, gear, Descendant and without stabilizers some of the stuff is near impossible. I feel it's this aspect that's really hurting the game.

They see their favorite content creator on Youtube with the best gear, mods, already obtained but what they don't see is the time invested in order to get those mods. Many would like to mimic what the content creators have but without the time invested or the willingness to grind through the content many are left behind in hopes of getting better gear just to be able to keep up as TFD is adding harder content every season.

Thats just BS from people too stubborn to use any of the best characters to farm marterials: it takes around 10 hours to get anything and fully upgrade it in this game, be it descedants or ultimate weapons, take for example the last new thing: A-TAM Serena one-shot build, it took me a week to get it. The 10 hours already considers farming for all the materials to get Serena and the sniper and put at least 10 catalyst in each of them. I already had some catalyst saved but even if I didn't it would have taken me 2 weeks at most. Note: this is assuming "casual gamers" play at least 10 hours per week.

One final note, they have not added harder content since the first invasions were added to the game, at best you could say VEP was kind of "harder content" but it was not since you only needed to have proper gear and builds that were not much different than the requirements for the original invasions.

[It is my CAT]

Originally posted by Rumi:

Now if you're talking Serena/Gley, sure.

You forgot about Luna. I am running purple reactor with gold stats)

[assemble.descendants]

Originally posted by L A V A:

I realize that.
I am running Ult Bunny ATM in the Sigma Sector with that chill reactor (with no problem completing high risk missions) and will see where my skill is after I level it up with Arche Tuning.

I am wondering whether to Maximise Conservation for Ult High Voltage Bunny,
since they seemed to have changed Narcissism to max 10 stacks instead of 16,
she runs out of mana, once again. Very annoying.
You are telling me that -20% skill power makes no difference?
I may as well run it then.

You are running a mismatched reactor, for a -20% or -40% skill power and it doesn't matter?
My Bunny was using an Electric/Singular reactor, that got implanted twice.
Now I am switching to a Range/Duration (Electric/SIngular) reactor, since I can't figure out to to max her AoE
Edit: typo narcissism

[Zefar]

For descendant that only rely on guns it's completely fine to just have a reactor with those two sub stats. Doesn't matter what element the reactor is either or it's level.

But for others that rely on reactor power, there can be quite a huge difference depending on what you get.

Ines is a good example. Sure she deletes trash mobs but the moment the bosses show up and you do not have the right weapon equipped. You're not one shotting the boss with the third skill.

At the same time it'll take longer to kill a boss.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by L A V A:

Originally posted by Rumi:

You'll deal more damage with the correct stats and the reactor.

I totally agree.

And yea, my Ult. Bunny stuggles sometimes in the High Risk Sigma Sector becauses I am not using my normal reactor and her damage is far less than one would expect.

So for example, my skill power with the proper electric reactor, gun and 4 enhancements gives me 20,000 skill power. With a chill reactor with gold Skill Cooldown and Skill Duration up, I'm getting 12,300 with level 8 Arche Tuning. So I still have plenty of skill power, cost reduction and range to get by the time I'm at level 40.

Nevertheless, with a fully upgraded and cored Malovent and Albion Cavalry Gun, even though I'm doing far less damage with my skills, if I start to get into a fix, my weapons can get me through it.

I'll have a better understanding of the effect once I can get Arche Tuning to level 40 but it appears to me that with good guns, Arche Tuning and some max HP components, that it may no longer be necessary to worry too much about having a very expensive specific God roll reactor with enhancements and weapon implantation.

Dunno, tis why I asked for your comments as I am not a top notch player.

Outside of content that doesn't require you to hit a time requirement, this is true. However, the extra boost and skill power available from a proper maxed reactor may be small but it is significantly different from a non-tailored reactor.

You do not need to min-max your character to clear content basically, not atm. pre-gun cores and Serena, having a reactor that fits your respective element and decent gold/purple sub stat rolls were kinda mandatory.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by It is my CAT:

Originally posted by Rumi:

Now if you're talking Serena/Gley, sure.

You forgot about Luna. I am running purple reactor with gold stats)

You're right. When it comes to buffing, as long as it's singular with cd/su, it's fine on Luna.

[It is my CAT]

Originally posted by Rumi:

You're right. When it comes to buffing, as long as it's singular with cd/su, it's fine on Luna.

No, it is not necessary to be singular at all. CD + SD is the best for her.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by It is my CAT:

Originally posted by Rumi:

You're right. When it comes to buffing, as long as it's singular with cd/su, it's fine on Luna.

No, it is not necessary to be singular at all. CD + SD is the best for her.

True again, I say singular/cd/su cause I alternate between dps and buffing luna, less reason to alternate between reactors in the long run

[It is my CAT]

Originally posted by Rumi:

True again, I say singular/cd/su cause I alternate between dps and buffing luna, less reason to alternate between reactors in the long run

Fair enough) I hope April's update will improve reactor/equipment situation.

[The Prime]

Funny because I still prioritize reactors.

[Frostysir]

Originally posted by The Prime:

Funny because I still prioritize reactors.

For what? Guns deal uptowards 10 times the damage for anything except mobbing outside VEP, and out there, even a basic reactor does the trick when playing Freyna, Bunny or Ines.

Why bother?

[euronot]

Crit chance for Lepic is important as well because you won't reach 50% without reactors/arche tuning. Sadly Lepic has barely any use as a DPS rn, only a pull ♥♥♥♥♥ afaik.

[L A V A]

Originally posted by assemble.descendants:

I am wondering whether to Maximise Conservation for Ult High Voltage Bunny,
since they seemed to have changed Narcissism to max 10 stacks instead of 16,
she runs out of mana, once again. Very annoying.
You are telling me that -20% skill power makes no difference?
I may as well run it then.

You are running a mismatched reactor, for a -20% or -40% skill power and it doesn't matter?
My Bunny was using an Electric/Singular reactor, that got implanted twice.
Now I am switching to a Range/Duration (Electric/SIngular) reactor, since I can't figure out to to max her AoE

Yes, of course it matters.

I also run out of mania and she does not have the same ability to wipe out mobs because of her drop in AOE damage. But when that happens, I pull out my Malovent and it keeps me in the game until I get my mania recharged. I also use it to kill the bosses. So it is kind of a hybrid build, but since I haven't maxed out her Arche Tuning yet, I don't know where she will actually stand once that is done.

So what I am trying to do is to see if I can take a purely skills based Descendent and compensate for the lack of a proper reactor with a weapon implant and 4 or 5 reactor enhancements, which of course is a lot of farming, using Arche Tuning and an OP weapon.

I think I will play her with my normal reactor reactor to finish the Arche Tuning rapidly and then switch back to the chill reactor with gold Skill Cooldown and Skill Duration up and see what is the difference.

[Rumi]

Originally posted by L A V A:

Originally posted by assemble.descendants:

I am wondering whether to Maximise Conservation for Ult High Voltage Bunny,
since they seemed to have changed Narcissism to max 10 stacks instead of 16,
she runs out of mana, once again. Very annoying.
You are telling me that -20% skill power makes no difference?
I may as well run it then.

You are running a mismatched reactor, for a -20% or -40% skill power and it doesn't matter?
My Bunny was using an Electric/Singular reactor, that got implanted twice.
Now I am switching to a Range/Duration (Electric/SIngular) reactor, since I can't figure out to to max her AoE

Yes, of course it matters.

I also run out of mania and she does not have the same ability to wipe out mobs because of her drop in AOE damage. But when that happens, I pull out my Malovent and it keeps me in the game until I get my mania recharged. I also use it to kill the bosses. So it is kind of a hybrid build, but since I haven't maxed out her Arche Tuning yet, I don't know where she will actually stand once that is done.

So what I am trying to do is to see if I can take a purely skills based Descendent and compensate for the lack of a proper reactor with a weapon implant and 4 or 5 reactor enhancements, which of course is a lot of farming, using Arche Tuning and an OP weapon.

I think I will play her with my normal reactor reactor to finish the Arche Tuning rapidly and then switch back to the chill reactor with gold Skill Cooldown and Skill Duration up and see what is the difference.

I won't lie, on descendants like Bunny (1 of my 6 lvl 40 arches) I genuinely don't think you need to min-max her reactor and get the best substats, electric/singular- yadayadayada.
You still clear content but for descendants like Viessa, I see a huge difference between a +2 reactor that's fusion/chill on a AZ build compared to a +2 reactor thats singular/chill on the same build.

Perhaps this is just for skill descendants that don't have to really rely on critting because their AOE is absurdly large (Ines, Freyna, Bunny) compared to descendants whose ranges are much smaller and require critting. Dunno really, just giving my side of it.

If you could really care less about the most "efficient" build for clearing content and focusing purely on guns then yeah, just run 1 reactor but you are missing a lot of potential damage which is widely unnecessary in most content atm.