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Younguns 375 Dec 7, 2024 @ 11:53am
Dog v Keelan
is there a way to ensure Keelan at the end of void vessel? or do we have double rng to play with on top of low %
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Keyrock Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Double RNG to the best of my knowledge. Still, the grind for Keelan is much less obnoxious than Hailey. The drop percentages on hard void runs are fairly reasonable IMHO. Plus, if you set your mind to it, you can knock it out in a day of grinding, whereas with Hailey it's a week of doing Invasions even if you get good RNG.
Younguns 375 Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by Keyrock:
Double RNG to the best of my knowledge. Still, the grind for Keelan is much less obnoxious than Hailey. The drop percentages on hard void runs are fairly reasonable IMHO. Plus, if you set your mind to it, you can knock it out in a day of grinding, whereas with Hailey it's a week of doing Invasions even if you get good RNG.


Thats too bad, i think its worse so far as i have got nothing but dog boxes. so i havent even had a chance to get keelan and his drop rates are low. got ult sharen faster. already have the dog so just feels like a waste of time getting it. not sure why they just wouldnt put keelan in a different grind like sharen or allow targeting. honestly their targeting system is only good for outpost am
Xeretrax Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
All I seem to be getting is Keelan while I want dog -.-
At least let us choose what we want ffs ...Getting Keelan makes it a 100% useless run to me.
Keyrock Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Younguns 375:
Thats too bad, i think its worse so far as i have got nothing but dog boxes. so i havent even had a chance to get keelan and his drop rates are low.
I had the opposite problem. I wanted the dog and kept getting predominantly Keelan. Still, I eventually got all the drops for both and both are currently researching. That's with slightly favorable, but not ridiculous RNG.
Jundah 101 Dec 7, 2024 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Younguns 375:
is there a way to ensure Keelan at the end of void vessel? or do we have double rng to play with on top of low %
they add new bad luck protection system, so keep doing those runs after you target keelan part as your pity, and you will get that part after few runs
Exemplifire Dec 7, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
Originally posted by Younguns 375:
is there a way to ensure Keelan at the end of void vessel? or do we have double rng to play with on top of low %
they add new bad luck protection system, so keep doing those runs after you target keelan part as your pity, and you will get that part after few runs
Yeah, so how does that work? If you can't select a target, how do they know what you want? Do you need to have it in one of the 4 target slots in Access Info? Becasue that's what I've been doing and it doesn't seem to be working.
Younguns 375 Dec 7, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
they add new bad luck protection system, so keep doing those runs after you target keelan part as your pity, and you will get that part after few runs
Yeah, so how does that work? If you can't select a target, how do they know what you want? Do you need to have it in one of the 4 target slots in Access Info? Becasue that's what I've been doing and it doesn't seem to be working.


me either, honestly feels like its the opposite. kind of like playing heads or tails and always getting the opposite. little fishy
Exemplifire Dec 7, 2024 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Younguns 375:
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Yeah, so how does that work? If you can't select a target, how do they know what you want? Do you need to have it in one of the 4 target slots in Access Info? Becasue that's what I've been doing and it doesn't seem to be working.


me either, honestly feels like its the opposite. kind of like playing heads or tails and always getting the opposite. little fishy
Yeah, I've now asked how to use this new "target/pity system" 3 times in different threads and have gotten not one answer.
Jundah 101 Dec 7, 2024 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Originally posted by Younguns 375:


me either, honestly feels like its the opposite. kind of like playing heads or tails and always getting the opposite. little fishy
Yeah, I've now asked how to use this new "target/pity system" 3 times in different threads and have gotten not one answer.
access info > click on keelan parts > notice the button that says "select as target" or something like that when you hover on the mission to get him? click that and the quest will have a check mark indicating the bad luck protection now active
Exemplifire Dec 7, 2024 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Yeah, I've now asked how to use this new "target/pity system" 3 times in different threads and have gotten not one answer.
access info > click on keelan parts > notice the button that says "select as target" or something like that when you hover on the mission to get him? click that and the quest will have a check mark indicating the bad luck protection now active
Thank you! So, that's separate from the other "Targets" in Access Info?

And it looks like you can only set one at a time?
Exemplifire Dec 7, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Jundah 101:
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Yeah, I've now asked how to use this new "target/pity system" 3 times in different threads and have gotten not one answer.
access info > click on keelan parts > notice the button that says "select as target" or something like that when you hover on the mission to get him? click that and the quest will have a check mark indicating the bad luck protection now active
Double RNG keeps the pity system from being truly helpful here. If you get the Dog Vault, the Keelan part counter does not go up and vice versa. I also hear it has no impact on what you get out of AMs. So, it's effectively worthless.
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Date Posted: Dec 7, 2024 @ 11:53am
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