Crash To Desktop P.C. Fix When???????

[V1R3S]

Since the latest season , i get CTDS at least 4 times during a 4 hour session , when wil you fix this

[Jack Wallace]

Same here, but only on my Intel i14900K / RTX 4090 PC. It crashes to desktop constantly, and I count myself lucky if I can get through 3 load screens without the system dumping the game engine. And playing with friends in a party? Forget about it! What's worse is that trying to get it to launch after a crash is like starting an old truck. The splash screen shows, then... BOOM! Crash to desktop. On rare occasions, I've even had it crash hard enough that the whole PC rebooted. I've got 64 GB of RAM and 24 GB of VRAM, so there's no way it should be a memory issue. Also disabled all overclocking and XMP profile settings in my BIOS for maximum stability.

I've tried installing the games to different hard drives, I've tried disabling Raytracing, I've tried disabling Frame Generation and DLSS—I've even tried using FSR and XeSS to see if it was an NVIDIA issue, but still no relief from the constant crashes.

When looking at the Windows event log, It seems like this is related to Easy Anti-Cheat failing to recognize the game or something.

I can at least say that when running DLSS in Balanced mode, the crashes are less frequent, but I'm not sure why.

My older "potato" PC with i7700K / Dual GTX 1070 never crashes. I can't run the settings on anything other than medium, but it runs all day long without any problems. It's got 16 GB of RAM and 8 GB of VRAM per GPU, but shouldn't hold a candle to my main PC's performance. It stutters sometimes, has terrible FPS most times, but never crashes. And I've tried. I even applied all max settings in the options to see if that would shock the game into crashing, but it just drops FPS to single digits and keeps chugging. It's uncanny.

I plan on getting an RTX 5090 on launch (if I'm lucky and the bots don't beat me) so maybe that will somehow fix the issue, but I doubt it. Still, one can dream. I love this game, and I will continue to play it, even when the crashes make me feel like I'm beating my head against the wall every ten minutes. I'm not sure if its a GPU problem or a CPU problem, but it is hella frustrating.

[Jack Wallace]

UPDATE: I just checked ASUS' website for a potential BIOS update, just in case the CPU is the root of all these problems. There is a new BIOS update available for my motherboard as of just a few days ago, so maybe check and see if that fixes the problem.

I will update my PC after work and see if that helps. Stay tuned for results!

[Wickedbadz]

Originally posted by Jack Wallace:

UPDATE: I just checked ASUS' website for a potential BIOS update, just in case the CPU is the root of all these problems. There is a new BIOS update available for my motherboard as of just a few days ago, so maybe check and see if that fixes the problem.

I will update my PC after work and see if that helps. Stay tuned for results!

You know that your CPU is a issue right? It's not a matter of if it will fail it's a matter of when.

[Jack Wallace]

Yeah, I know the 13th and 14th gen CPUs have problems. I still would rather give the new BIOS a chance to see if Intel or ASUS finally fixed the issue. If not, there's always the distinct possibility that I will switch to AMD for the first time... Ugh.

I do a lot of productivity things with my main PC, so I hate the idea of switching to AMD and losing out on decent multi-threading performance. Besides, when playing games on max settings, the performance difference is negligible to me. my monitor maxes out at 144 FPS anyway.

EDIT: After a quick google search, I see what you're saying. Apparently, Intel fixed the voltage issues in the 13th/14th gen CPUs, but if my CPU has already suffered damage due to this problem, the only fix is to replace the CPU entirely.

This really burns me up. On one hand, I could just buy a replacement 14th gen CPU, but that makes me feel paranoid that I'll still have a similar issue...

I guess it's time to start shopping around for new MOBO/CPU...

[JahBit]

Same here, game's started to crash a lot after the update (two patches ago?).
(AMD Ryzen 5900X, 3080ti with studio drivers)

[HaloSign]

Just try the i9-14900F. Its little slower but does not have these issues

[🍋лимончик🍋]

the same thing crashes the game on two PCs

[Jack Wallace]

Originally posted by HaloSign:

Just try the i9-14900F. Its little slower but does not have these issues

I decided this is as good a time as any to get away from Intel and try AMD. I decided I'll just get an AM5 board and the 9800X3D for now. Even if my 14900K isn't permanently damaged, I feel like I can't really trust Intel with how the situation has been handled.

I'm sure TFD will still crash, but I'll keep you guys posted on how things turn out anyway.

[Dr. Peppermill]

People with similar issues should go to their Discord, I bet they don’t read here.

[Volfer]

Originally posted by Jack Wallace:

Yeah, I know the 13th and 14th gen CPUs have problems. I still would rather give the new BIOS a chance to see if Intel or ASUS finally fixed the issue. If not, there's always the distinct possibility that I will switch to AMD for the first time... Ugh.

I do a lot of productivity things with my main PC, so I hate the idea of switching to AMD and losing out on decent multi-threading performance. Besides, when playing games on max settings, the performance difference is negligible to me. my monitor maxes out at 144 FPS anyway.

EDIT: After a quick google search, I see what you're saying. Apparently, Intel fixed the voltage issues in the 13th/14th gen CPUs, but if my CPU has already suffered damage due to this problem, the only fix is to replace the CPU entirely.

This really burns me up. On one hand, I could just buy a replacement 14th gen CPU, but that makes me feel paranoid that I'll still have a similar issue...

I guess it's time to start shopping around for new MOBO/CPU...

Your InHell CPU is ded

[Wolfsblut]

Originally posted by Jack Wallace:

Originally posted by HaloSign:

Just try the i9-14900F. Its little slower but does not have these issues

I decided this is as good a time as any to get away from Intel and try AMD. I decided I'll just get an AM5 board and the 9800X3D for now. Even if my 14900K isn't permanently damaged, I feel like I can't really trust Intel with how the situation has been handled.

I'm sure TFD will still crash, but I'll keep you guys posted on how things turn out anyway.

its not game related. its the I9 of yours. my I7 runs so fine as butter.

[Jack Wallace]

Originally posted by Wolfsblut:

Originally posted by Jack Wallace:

I decided this is as good a time as any to get away from Intel and try AMD. I decided I'll just get an AM5 board and the 9800X3D for now. Even if my 14900K isn't permanently damaged, I feel like I can't really trust Intel with how the situation has been handled.

I'm sure TFD will still crash, but I'll keep you guys posted on how things turn out anyway.

its not game related. its the I9 of yours. my I7 runs so fine as butter.

Exactly the conclusion I've come to as I've spent most of the day researching the topic of 13th/14th gen stability and "fixes" by Intel. It's a really crappy realization. I really have loved using Intel chips in all my builds so far, so parting ways with them in a build makes me feel anxious, especially when it comes to multi-threading performance.

I thought about buying a 14900KS so I could avoid replacing the motherboard, but I just don't trust that the CPU will last as long as the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I'd hate to drop that kind of cash only to find out Intel won't RMA the CPU.

The old "potato" PC I have as a backup runs an I7, and it never seems to have an issue. (It's a wonderful processor!) I would just use that, but I want a motherboard that supports PCIe 5.0 for the upcoming RTX 5090. The motherboard in my old I7 machine is PCIe 3.0, so it would be a huge bottleneck, even if I put my RTX 4090 in it.

It makes me wonder if most of the people complaining about TFD crashing are exclusively running 13th/14th gen Intel CPUs. I really hope going with AMD will fix the issue and provide a long-lasting and stable system for years to come. Seeing as how the AM5 socket has a lot of future potential, I also feel like it is an upgrade. (Since Intel has moved on from the LGA 1700 socket with the 245K CPU.)

[HaloSign]

Originally posted by Jack Wallace:

Originally posted by Wolfsblut:

its not game related. its the I9 of yours. my I7 runs so fine as butter.

Exactly the conclusion I've come to as I've spent most of the day researching the topic of 13th/14th gen stability and "fixes" by Intel. It's a really crappy realization. I really have loved using Intel chips in all my builds so far, so parting ways with them in a build makes me feel anxious, especially when it comes to multi-threading performance.

I thought about buying a 14900KS so I could avoid replacing the motherboard, but I just don't trust that the CPU will last as long as the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I'd hate to drop that kind of cash only to find out Intel won't RMA the CPU.

The old "potato" PC I have as a backup runs an I7, and it never seems to have an issue. (It's a wonderful processor!) I would just use that, but I want a motherboard that supports PCIe 5.0 for the upcoming RTX 5090. The motherboard in my old I7 machine is PCIe 3.0, so it would be a huge bottleneck, even if I put my RTX 4090 in it.

It makes me wonder if most of the people complaining about TFD crashing are exclusively running 13th/14th gen Intel CPUs. I really hope going with AMD will fix the issue and provide a long-lasting and stable system for years to come. Seeing as how the AM5 socket has a lot of future potential, I also feel like it is an upgrade. (Since Intel has moved on from the LGA 1700 socket with the 245K CPU.)

The issue with Intel CPU’s was TDP related. i9-14900F has a TDP of 65W (PL2 goes up to 219W but that’s OK and will not damage the CPU) and therefore this CPU is OK and will stay OK as long as you do not play “games” like overvoltage in the BIOS.

I still recommend Intel as AMD requires drivers and all who are computer scientists know that drivers are the origin for bugs and instabilities…

[xTNPxSeal]

Intel and the gaming community have all posted guides and suggestions on what to do if you're using a 13th or 145 gen Intel, with many of the tech folks suggesting capping the power limits so have you tried any of the suggestions?

[Jack Wallace]

Originally posted by HaloSign:

The issue with Intel CPU’s was TDP related. i9-14900F has a TDP of 65W (PL2 goes up to 219W but that’s OK and will not damage the CPU) and therefore this CPU is OK and will stay OK as long as you do not play “games” like overvoltage in the BIOS.

I still recommend Intel as AMD requires drivers and all who are computer scientists know that drivers are the origin for bugs and instabilities…

I suppose you'r right, and that certainly would've been the most cost-effective solution to my problem except now I am having a hard time trusting Intel seeing as how they handled this issue. I didn't even know there was also an oxidation issue in addition to the voltage microcode errors in the 13/14th gen CPUs. What's worse is they knew about it for a full year before ever mentioning it, and they buried the announcement under media coverage of the voltage issues.

While I understand AMD has its own set of problems, I feel like Intel screwed this up so bad I must walk away just for my own peace of mind. While the 14900F might not have voltage issues, it is significantly slower on the clock speed. Not to mention, I have no idea what other sorts of issues Intel might not be disclosing about this CPU.

But to be fair, after updating my BIOS tonight, the PC does feel more stable. It still crashes TFD, but significantly less so. I am curious though...

Does anyone here have an AMD CPU and an NVIDIA GPU who is also suffering from constant TFD crashes? I saw that Hajbit (Post #5) has crashes with his AMD/NVIDIA system, but how many others are here?

Also, how many of you are running 13/14th gen Intel and are NOT suffering from this issue? I'd love to hear from you guys to get a better scope of the overall situation.