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Min/Max 1 月 7 日 上午 7:10
DLSS 4 and DLSS Multi Frame Generation coming end of this month
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-generation-ray-tracing-rtx-games/

Nvidia announced DLSS 4 and DLSS Multi Frame Generation will be added at the end of this month. For those of us who play on 4K 120Hz displays or even those thinking about getting one those upcoming 4K 240Hz OLED displays this is good news for us all.

The chart below shows which feature will be for which generation

https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-generation-ai-innovations/nvidia-dlss-4-feature-chart-breakdown.jpg
最后由 Min/Max 编辑于; 1 月 7 日 上午 7:11
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DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.
Ex-D204 1 月 7 日 上午 8:00 
i hope someone bought 5070 and benchmark this game
step on me 1 月 7 日 上午 9:37 
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.
I really enjoy how DLSS 2 it's working. Specially in 4k 32inch monitors i barely notice blur with perfomance
引用自 Marina
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.
I really enjoy how DLSS 2 it's working. Specially in 4k 32inch monitors i barely notice blur with perfomance

Looks smooth, but you have longer animation times which impact gameplay on games like this game.
Y_B_A_FOOL 1 月 29 日 下午 4:54 
When?
lackesis 1 月 29 日 下午 5:29 
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.

This PVE game doesn't require extremely low input latency, and DLSS4 upscale is an upgrade for everyone who own RTX card. Do some research before posting something like this.
Wolfsblut 1 月 30 日 上午 5:18 
引用自 lackesis
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.

This PVE game doesn't require extremely low input latency, and DLSS4 upscale is an upgrade for everyone who own RTX card. Do some research before posting something like this.

this comment is as funny as nvidia saying 40s can run DLSS4 but not MFG x3-x4 times.. funny isnt it. i like how nvidia trolls the customers so much rofl.
Boxer 1 月 30 日 上午 5:31 
DLSS 4 override is out and as expected it looks better on Performance now than it did on Quality before, and almost completely fixes the terrible TAA blur this game suffered from.

Nvidia is probably the only company that cares about their customers long term at this point, my 7 year old 2080 can now play this game at a resolution quality that a 7900xtx (or the latest AMD slop) can only dream about lmfao.
最后由 Boxer 编辑于; 1 月 30 日 上午 5:35
Wehzy 1 月 30 日 上午 5:37 
引用自 Marina
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.
I really enjoy how DLSS 2 it's working. Specially in 4k 32inch monitors i barely notice blur with perfomance

DLSS is a lazy way for devs to improve their game performance. Games should not rely on upscalers for better performance but the sad truth is game devs dont care about optimization anymore. In future everything will be about fake frames and upscalers. Without it, its unplayable.

引用自 lackesis
引用自 Sir Meowthius
DLSS = bad for this game and any other FPS & MMO Ability action games. We need Native Frame Rates not padded frame rates because NVidia sucks at making video drivers.

This PVE game doesn't require extremely low input latency, and DLSS4 upscale is an upgrade for everyone who own RTX card. Do some research before posting something like this.

YOU do some research. Its not an upgrade for RTX owners, its a lazy way to improve performance by adding fake frames and insane input delay.
最后由 Wehzy 编辑于; 1 月 30 日 上午 5:38
Boxer 1 月 30 日 上午 5:44 
引用自 Wehzy
引用自 Marina
I really enjoy how DLSS 2 it's working. Specially in 4k 32inch monitors i barely notice blur with perfomance

DLSS is a lazy way for devs to improve their game performance. Games should not rely on upscalers for better performance but the sad truth is game devs dont care about optimization anymore. In future everything will be about fake frames and upscalers. Without it, its unplayable.

引用自 lackesis

This PVE game doesn't require extremely low input latency, and DLSS4 upscale is an upgrade for everyone who own RTX card. Do some research before posting something like this.

YOU do some research. Its not an upgrade for RTX owners, its a lazy way to improve performance by adding fake frames and insane input delay.
I would like to drink your tears but they're quite pixelated from that FSR you're running there, but hey maybe by the next 15 years they will be as sharp as DLSS 2 (the one from 2020).

DLSS lowers input lag and delay as the GPU has to do less work for much better results compared to native + AA.
Frame gen increases input lag and delay by about 10-15ms (it's much lower than it would be playing native as Nvidia Reflex is a thing).

No matter how much you cry, it's an upgrade and software matters more than GPU raw power in videogames now, reason why AMD can't compete and completely dropped out of the high end market.
最后由 Boxer 编辑于; 1 月 30 日 上午 5:55
Rogue 1 月 30 日 上午 6:00 
input lag to da moon.
Wolfsblut 1 月 30 日 上午 8:57 
引用自 Rogue
input lag to da moon.

actually you can run x4 mfg with almost no input lag. 36 ms input latency isnt to bad. over 60-70 ms input latency gets bad..
Dr. Peppermill 1 月 30 日 下午 12:54 
Good luck finding 5000 card. LOL You know you need one for MFG, right ?
Rogue 1 月 30 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 Wolfsblut
引用自 Rogue
input lag to da moon.

actually you can run x4 mfg with almost no input lag. 36 ms input latency isnt to bad. over 60-70 ms input latency gets bad..

Though tfd is not a competitive shooter, it's still a shooter/action game not a click and point adventure game or turn based game. Anything greater than 1/60*1000 or 16.7ms is bad. Just buy proper hardware to run @ minimum 60 fps @ native, not budget graphic card that runs @ 23 fps and you fake it till you make it @ 230 fps, it will still feel like crappy 23 fps.

Copium to da moon. What's worse, developer don't optimize their games, since the fake and crappy experience is swallowed whole by stupid consumers due to it. Nvidia has the audacity to market that 200+ fps nonsense, smart people don't like frame gen aka fake frames. DLSS/FSR, Scaling is fine, since it's been used since eons past (aka basically playing at lower resolution)
最后由 Rogue 编辑于; 1 月 30 日 下午 1:30
Dr. Peppermill 1 月 30 日 下午 1:40 
引用自 Rogue
引用自 Wolfsblut

actually you can run x4 mfg with almost no input lag. 36 ms input latency isnt to bad. over 60-70 ms input latency gets bad..

Though tfd is not a competitive shooter, it's still a shooter/action game not a click and point adventure game or turn based game. Anything greater than 1/60*1000 or 16.7ms is bad. Just buy proper hardware to run @ minimum 60 fps @ native, not budget graphic card that runs @ 23 fps and you fake it till you make it @ 230 fps, it will still feel like crappy 23 fps.

Copium to da moon. What's worse, developer don't optimize their games, since the fake and crappy experience is swallowed whole by stupid consumers due to it.

Frame generation and DLSS promote lazy development. I’m with 4090 and I have played several games that can’t maintain 60 FPS @ 4k native even with this card, unless you lower your settings or use DLLS / Frame Gen.

I can’t change this, things are interconnected, so I’m glad when they provide DLSS / FG as a crutch.

PS
Even RTX 5090, which is a grandmotherboard for your motherboard, is very far from providing path tracing (Full RT) at 4k native / 60 FPS.
We were thinking we’ll have flying cars in 2020, instead we got videocards that can be used as assault weapons thanks to their enormous size and weight. LOL
最后由 Dr. Peppermill 编辑于; 1 月 30 日 下午 1:57
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