The First Descendant

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Delphinus Sep 18, 2024 @ 7:47pm
Which is better for Hailey Afterglow Sword or Piercing Light
I am just asking i can get both kind easily so i wondering which is better for boss fights o.O
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Piercing Light is favourable pick if you can get good reactor for it. If not both is good. Hailey main damage comes mostly from spell damage multiplier and weapon doesnt matter that much. You can kill solo colossi pretty well even with nazeistra/perforator setup.
Last edited by grab these bandages; Sep 18, 2024 @ 7:54pm
Moon Punisher Sep 18, 2024 @ 7:59pm 
Depends.

If you can hit all shots in weak points, then Piercing Light is around 10% better from what I understood.

If you miss the weak points, then Sword.
PL for sure, due to higher base dmg. just practice your aiming, so you can hit weak spots all the time.
Delphinus Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:03pm 
I see o.o So basically I just have to have PL equip while using skill 4 correct
Last edited by Delphinus; Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:04pm
namvfpx Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:27pm 
Which you have the better reactor for, which is better.
The skill 4 damage includes 2 factors: gun damage + skill damage, your gun only affects gun damage part, then the difference is not much, only 3-5% damage difference with same condition, tested in lab (lvl 1 mob)
PL: 7.9m (gun dmg) + 10m(skill dmg)
AS: 7.2m (gun dmg) + 10m (skill dmg)
Both: max attack, crit dmg, weak point dmg mods, gold substats: firearm attack, weak point damage, crit damage, damage colossus.
Most of end game bosses have high crit resistance and defense, so the difference of gun damage part on them is not much.
Of cause, if you have similar reactors for 2 guns, PL is better.
Last edited by namvfpx; Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:28pm
jvjd Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:42pm 
Afterglow doesn't need the insight mod due to Haileys 3 , so this mean she can have more shots on her 4 with her AG like 7 rather than 5 with PL . That's were it balances out.

In both cases however PL or AG - I am beating bosses or putting them in enrage in 3 shots - The first breaks the weak-point ,the second stuns them and 3rd finishes them off . So it doesn't really matter at the end of the day

Gold mods and weapon unique effects don;t proc with descendants unique weapons so I don't get why ppl are suggesting that
Last edited by jvjd; Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:43pm
namvfpx Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:48pm 
Originally posted by jvjd:
Afterglow doesn't need the insight mod due to Haileys 3 , so this mean she can have more shots on her 4 with her AG like 7 rather than 5 with PL . That's were it balances out.

In both cases however PL or AG - I am beating bosses or putting them in enrage in 3 shots - The first breaks the weak-point ,the second stuns them and 3rd finishes them off . So it doesn't really matter at the end of the day

Gold mods and weapon unique effects don;t proc with descendants unique weapons so I don't get why ppl are suggesting that
You are wrong, unique ability doesn't but some gold mods affect the unique weapon skill.
jvjd Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by namvfpx:
Originally posted by jvjd:
Afterglow doesn't need the insight mod due to Haileys 3 , so this mean she can have more shots on her 4 with her AG like 7 rather than 5 with PL . That's were it balances out.

In both cases however PL or AG - I am beating bosses or putting them in enrage in 3 shots - The first breaks the weak-point ,the second stuns them and 3rd finishes them off . So it doesn't really matter at the end of the day

Gold mods and weapon unique effects don;t proc with descendants unique weapons so I don't get why ppl are suggesting that
You are wrong, unique ability doesn't but some gold mods affect the unique weapon skill.

There is laboratory in game you can test it yourself. Take example the gold weakpoint mod , if you hit the weakpoint with the weapon it will proc, there is an obvious damage change and it will pop in buff tooltip above the HP bar

Now Reset the entire thing and with it use your Descendant unique weapon hit the weak point , it does not proc and there is no change in damage . You are free to believe whatever you want, but I go by evidence which there is none .

If you want o make use of the gold mod , you would have to proc it first then shift to your unique, this is what ppl were doing with the first shot damage bonus mod with Vestigial cannon as it had travel time ,till the devs nerfed it.
Last edited by jvjd; Sep 18, 2024 @ 8:56pm
namvfpx Sep 18, 2024 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by jvjd:
Originally posted by namvfpx:
You are wrong, unique ability doesn't but some gold mods affect the unique weapon skill.

There is laboratory in game you can test it yourself. Take example the gold weakpoint mod , if you hit the weakpoint with the weapon it will proc, there is an obvious damage change and it will pop in buff tooltip above the HP bar

Now Reset the entire thing and with it use your Descendant unique weapon hit the weak point , it does not proc and there is no change in damage . You are free to believe whatever you want, but I go by evidence which there is none .

If you want o make use of the gold mod , you would have to proc it first then shift to your unique, this is what ppl were doing with the first shot damage bonus mod with Vestigal cannon till the devs nerfed it.

You test it wrong, go laboratory, use Weak point expansion mod then hit 2 continue hit with your Zenith and see the different numbers. Or just use Payout in Hand Cannon and shoot weak point then see the bullet left.
Many people have tested, and only you saying the ultimate mods don't affect descendant unique weapon.
Player Zer01 Sep 18, 2024 @ 9:52pm 
PL is better because your ult takes the base damage of the weapon youre holding. PL has the highest sniper damage so far.
Last edited by Player Zer01; Sep 18, 2024 @ 9:52pm
P.Diddy's Baby Oil Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:03pm 
they're very close because of the way her 4 skill works. it's primarily skill damage. weapon damage is a much smaller part of its damage. that said, i have both snipers fully built and have a good critdmg+col dmg reactor for both, and they're close enough it doesn't really matter, but i personally use piercing light as it very slightly edges out AG in my testing.
Rinto Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:18pm 
pl not even 10% better than afterglow
payout with green ammo gun give 3 extra shoot

sniper if you want to see beeg number
or payout with green ammo gun if you want consistency

for example i can kill solo swamwalker with pl but not consentant
but with payout i can kill swampwalker 100% of the time

btw my piercing light fully modded while perforator only using payout and 2 magazine increase mod
Xorpion Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:24pm 
Whichever weapon you have built, including the rolled stats, and tbh the only one that effects skill 4 is raising the weapon attack. As stated above, you'll need a good reactor as well, which is another debate in itself. The extra colossi damage or spell crit chance and spell crit damage, rng is what it is.

I use afterglow and my reactor has spell crit chance (pur) and spell crit damage (gold) and I rarely use more than 4 rounds while solo.

Hailey is good and all, endless sniper ammo. Sharen is still my go to for solo'g hm colossi, Sharen does what she was built to do, yeet ♥♥♥♥ out of existence...
Akiza Sep 18, 2024 @ 11:28pm 
Piercing light is better.
jandraelune Sep 19, 2024 @ 2:03am 
Hailey's 4th skill goes off base dmg, Piercing Light has more then Afterglow.

Her 4th skill is effected by clip size modules, maxed modules brings the 4 base shots to 8. DPS wise, the clip modules are more for the 4th skill then the gun.
Silly Weeper (the highest single hit dmg green ammo, double Perforator's) with the module ' Payout ' to squeeze 2 more shots out of the 4th skill. for a total of 10 shots by not spending ammo on weak point hit for 3sec.

Hailey's 4th skill is not just firearm atk dmg but also skill dmg. This means it can crit twice in addition to doing weak point dmg.
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