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Hagios Invasion Boss with shields
Hey all,

So another week where we have an invasion boss that has shields, and for some reason I struggle against them.
I can say this because previously, there was this one particular invasion boss, in one invasion he had shields, in the other he only had HP. I took down the version with pure HP easily, but struggled against the one with shields. In both cases I used Thunder Cage.

I'm guessing it's because shields can recharge but HP do not.
Is there a trick to shields that I am not aware of? Any advice?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von B R O K E N:
High damage Special rounds, or High-Power rounds, or Impact rounds weapon for shield?

Today's modifiers could be sort of rough for weapon damage AND skill damage descendants.

Not sure which one you are struggling with. But I would say with -negative skill damage modifier. Use any (weak to) weapon, plus skill damage (if possible). With on general rounds hit -damage. Use a non-general rounds weapon, plus skill damage (if possible). A non-general rounds weapon is important for this one. Because hitting with one will lower all damage the enemy takes. (At least I think that's what they were. I can't check again as I already completed them. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.)

Perhaps Greg's, will work as it will proc damage after the bullet hits the enemy? Or perhaps Secret Garden?

Let's see:
Legion of Immortality - Weaknesses - Poison, Crush
Machine Gun (General Rounds)
Tactical Rifle (Impact Rounds)
Scout Rifle (Special Rounds)
Sniper Rifle (High-Power Rounds)

Legion of Darkness - Weaknesses - Chill, Pierce
Handgun (General Rounds)
Assault Rifle (General Rounds)
Beam Rifle (Impact Rounds)
Launcher (High-Powered Rounds)

Remember to hit weakpoints as much as possible, and GOOD LUCK!
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Asdf 10. Sep. 2024 um 3:25 
At first you should build EL, not TC. Smg have very short range w/o damage falloff when mg bullets have solid range w/o damage changes.
At second, how heavy upgraded your TC? Non-upgraded Tamer can have more than 300k dps, if you have less there's reason to swap. But i don't think 300k is enough for kill boss before next shield come online, especially with today's debuff for 35% damage when using white ammo. You can try to use secret garden or hand cannon, but they should be builded.
At third, you have like 30 second before shield will replenish, so it's just dps race. So you need to burst boss with wep, skills or both. If you enough tanky you can just down second shield and finish off the boss. If you have good builded chara with high skill damage it can help.
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High damage Special rounds, or High-Power rounds, or Impact rounds weapon for shield?

Today's modifiers could be sort of rough for weapon damage AND skill damage descendants.

Not sure which one you are struggling with. But I would say with -negative skill damage modifier. Use any (weak to) weapon, plus skill damage (if possible). With on general rounds hit -damage. Use a non-general rounds weapon, plus skill damage (if possible). A non-general rounds weapon is important for this one. Because hitting with one will lower all damage the enemy takes. (At least I think that's what they were. I can't check again as I already completed them. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.)

Perhaps Greg's, will work as it will proc damage after the bullet hits the enemy? Or perhaps Secret Garden?

Let's see:
Legion of Immortality - Weaknesses - Poison, Crush
Machine Gun (General Rounds)
Tactical Rifle (Impact Rounds)
Scout Rifle (Special Rounds)
Sniper Rifle (High-Power Rounds)

Legion of Darkness - Weaknesses - Chill, Pierce
Handgun (General Rounds)
Assault Rifle (General Rounds)
Beam Rifle (Impact Rounds)
Launcher (High-Powered Rounds)

Remember to hit weakpoints as much as possible, and GOOD LUCK!
Zuletzt bearbeitet von B R O K E N; 10. Sep. 2024 um 4:02
If you have Viessa built, you don't need weapons.
Rogue 10. Sep. 2024 um 4:32 
There's a general rounds debuff.... Take note. READ the mission. Use of any general rounds, ALL output damage(skills or weapons even if you swap) reduced by 36.8% for 30(THIRTY) seconds.. Huge penalty since the timer is short for gold rank.

Options
1. Avoid using general rounds weapons. Even for breaking boss's bubble, Tactical assault works fine.
2. Use a general round weapon but it must be close to maxed invest with super high crit/damage and you have a weak point hit rate of 80% (aim true). Very close, either 1 or 2 phase of the boss.
3. Your descendant has a really hard hitting direct damage skill, not dots. Lepic, Hailey, Viessa, etc.
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Enduring Legacy with at least 600k dps.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Poljanan:
Enduring Legacy with at least 600k dps.
so you HAVE max out a wep before playing the seasonal content... got ya... -.-
It's not really maxed out. Just action and reaction + some crit and ammo mods. Enduring Legacy gains a lot of DPS numbers from those.
Asdf 10. Sep. 2024 um 5:47 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von VigilantPhase449:
so you HAVE max out a wep before playing the seasonal content... got ya... -.-
Maxed EL will have over 800k.
From what i see in invasions... some bosses got more shield and HP than other bosses...
Ursprünglich geschrieben von BaD_sQn:
From what i see in invasions... some bosses got more shield and HP than other bosses...
Honestly it only feels that way because you're on a short timer before the puzzle reset happens. If you cant break shields and deal some hp damage it feels like you just wasted your time. By comparison fighting colossi and infiltration bosses are far more lax.
Lol That boss is a joke. Almost all of them are. Ultimate Gley Runs through them for free
Ursprünglich geschrieben von B R O K E N:
Remember to hit weakpoints as much as possible, and GOOD LUCK!

This did it, thanks. And I had to be as close as possible to avoid damage dropoff.

The other Invasion that had penalty to General Rounds didn't bother me as much.

To the people suggesting Enduring Legacy, I am indeed farming it. But I cannot possibly farm it fast enough before the Invasion Dungeons disappears, can I?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rogue:
2. Use a general round weapon but it must be close to maxed invest with super high crit/damage and you have a weak point hit rate of 80% (aim true). Very close, either 1 or 2 phase of the boss.

Thanks, honorary mention for this answer too.
This should give you an Idea how to beat this kind of bosses.
Each Invasion have debuffs, this particular invasion has minus skill power for 30 seconds when using grappling hook. Bunny's damage scale so much using grappling but in this video, you can see just by running around (even when delayed in dealing damage). Killing boss in one cycle is still possible.
The Haven after nerfs.
https://youtu.be/Dsakmiit9KY
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