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lordstuffing Oct 19, 2024 @ 11:29am
death stalker - enzo or yunji ?
its like both are good with only shield but is there a better one ?
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Sir Meowthius Oct 19, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Its a matter of preference between the 2.

you can go Immortal Shield Enzo, supply the crit package buff to your team and rez them without taking an ounce of damage

or

you can do they Yujin team doctor build and just keep a constant health stream to everyone and a damage boost.

both are fairly equal.
lordstuffing Oct 19, 2024 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Sir Meowthius:
Its a matter of preference between the 2.

you can go Immortal Shield Enzo, supply the crit package buff to your team and rez them without taking an ounce of damage

or

you can do they Yujin team doctor build and just keep a constant health stream to everyone and a damage boost.

both are fairly equal.

having a bit of problem with yujin cant really get the healing to be keept up i lose mp fast is there a good way to fix this ?
Sir Meowthius Oct 19, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
There is a couple ways to go about. I will link this guide so you can see multiple builds for Yujin. The first build is the BOSS build for Colossi fights.

https://alcasthq.com/tfd-yujin-build-guide/

Another good resource for build setups, this guy does a breakdown and explanation of what you need for whatever fights youre gonna do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibg5SLJNgk8
Astronaut Oct 19, 2024 @ 4:22pm 
Yes
Player Zer01 Oct 19, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
both.

though you NEED specific trans mods for both of them. enzos is the hardest pain in the ass since you CANT get his mods from combining (which is the dumbest thing ever) so you have to go get them via vaults and his mods have a 5% chance to drop from only purple vaults

yujins is easier because you can get his in multiple different ways. but still if you have the mods then use both.
Rinto Oct 19, 2024 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by Sir Meowthius:
There is a couple ways to go about. I will link this guide so you can see multiple builds for Yujin. The first build is the BOSS build for Colossi fights.

https://alcasthq.com/tfd-yujin-build-guide/

Another good resource for build setups, this guy does a breakdown and explanation of what you need for whatever fights youre gonna do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibg5SLJNgk8

why nobody ever put energy collection? espesially youtuber, that build is bad you will run out of mp in no time

"but dude, he didnt run out of mp in the vid and can spam heal"
see how many mp orb on the ground on that vid? tht why, not cuz of the build

try putting energy collection on any build and see how much more mp regen you get


also to answer the op, build enzo if you have the skill mod, its way better for death stalker
Last edited by Rinto; Oct 19, 2024 @ 6:00pm
Johnny Bermuda Oct 19, 2024 @ 7:24pm 
Originally posted by lordstuffing:
Originally posted by Sir Meowthius:
Its a matter of preference between the 2.

you can go Immortal Shield Enzo, supply the crit package buff to your team and rez them without taking an ounce of damage

or

you can do they Yujin team doctor build and just keep a constant health stream to everyone and a damage boost.

both are fairly equal.

having a bit of problem with yujin cant really get the healing to be keept up i lose mp fast is there a good way to fix this ?

External components are your best friend. You'll have to work hard (like reactors) for it but it's worth it. There are 3 interesting properties you should focus:
1. MP value in an external component (I think the gold one is 150+, but you can pick a purple too, maybe 135+). This value will be added to your MP stat. If you hit a gold, that will double the MP for some characters.
2. MP recovery in combat (this is really important one). You don't want "out of combat", every character owns this ability by default. You shoot stuff and the blue bar is refilling by itself (the higher value the faster it goes back).
3. MP recovery modifier, it's additional boost when you touch blue boxes (you can avoid putting module if you have this stat).

Now, combining every above mentioned stats with at least 3 high HP and 3 high DEF will be pain in the a$$ (focus on one set of components).

If it's really important, then go for gold skill cost in reactor but it's only -4%. You can put purple module with some different stat. My advise is, go all MP stats high as much as possible so you can go "all in" for a cool down. Nimble is 25%, MP conversion adds 36% but it will take -15% MP penalty. Focus on "specific element" skill power and focus on "type of skill" power modifier will bring you another 2x6,1%. Gold in reactor sub stat is 8+%. You can put additional module to boost the effect even more (gold module multitalented or narcissism have some cool down/cost features depending on what type of character you use) or some purple for MP/cost.

If you check every stat, you're ready for a spam. 400% missions are special spam parties.

Good luck!
Tyso Oct 19, 2024 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by Player Zer01:
both.

though you NEED specific trans mods for both of them. enzos is the hardest pain in the ass since you CANT get his mods from combining (which is the dumbest thing ever) so you have to go get them via vaults and his mods have a 5% chance to drop from only purple vaults

yujins is easier because you can get his in multiple different ways. but still if you have the mods then use both.
didnt know this game was woke
Player Zer01 Oct 19, 2024 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by Tyso:
Originally posted by Player Zer01:
both.

though you NEED specific trans mods for both of them. enzos is the hardest pain in the ass since you CANT get his mods from combining (which is the dumbest thing ever) so you have to go get them via vaults and his mods have a 5% chance to drop from only purple vaults

yujins is easier because you can get his in multiple different ways. but still if you have the mods then use both.
didnt know this game was woke
i knew some one was going to make that joke...... damn you xD!!
Johnny Bermuda Oct 20, 2024 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Johnny Bermuda:
Originally posted by lordstuffing:

having a bit of problem with yujin cant really get the healing to be keept up i lose mp fast is there a good way to fix this ?

External components are your best friend. You'll have to work hard (like reactors) for it but it's worth it. There are 3 interesting properties you should focus:
1. MP value in an external component (I think the gold one is 150+, but you can pick a purple too, maybe 135+). This value will be added to your MP stat. If you hit a gold, that will double the MP for some characters.
2. MP recovery in combat (this is really important one). You don't want "out of combat", every character owns this ability by default. You shoot stuff and the blue bar is refilling by itself (the higher value the faster it goes back).
3. MP recovery modifier, it's additional boost when you touch blue boxes (you can avoid putting module if you have this stat).

Now, combining every above mentioned stats with at least 3 high HP and 3 high DEF will be pain in the a$$ (focus on one set of components).

If it's really important, then go for gold skill cost in reactor but it's only -4%. You can put purple module with some different stat. My advise is, go all MP stats high as much as possible so you can go "all in" for a cool down. Nimble is 25%, MP conversion adds 36% but it will take -15% MP penalty. Focus on "specific element" skill power and focus on "type of skill" power modifier will bring you another 2x6,1%. Gold in reactor sub stat is 8+%. You can put additional module to boost the effect even more (gold module multitalented or narcissism have some cool down/cost features depending on what type of character you use) or some purple for MP/cost.

If you check every stat, you're ready for a spam. 400% missions are special spam parties.

Good luck!

I forgot to add one more thing related to MP. Use Inversion Reinforcement's "Selective Neurostimulation" in "Recovery" section to boost your MP recovery. In best case scenario, you can replenish 30+% of your total MP value in 60 seconds.
lordstuffing Oct 20, 2024 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by Player Zer01:
both.

though you NEED specific trans mods for both of them. enzos is the hardest pain in the ass since you CANT get his mods from combining (which is the dumbest thing ever) so you have to go get them via vaults and his mods have a 5% chance to drop from only purple vaults

yujins is easier because you can get his in multiple different ways. but still if you have the mods then use both.

have all the trans mods was hell to get
It is my CAT Oct 20, 2024 @ 3:57am 
Yujin is cool. Or Yujin players) He can save the party. I remember once I jump on high stone from start, playing Hailey and for some reason boss focused me with rockets. Yujin instantly healed me.
Or another time 2 players dropped and we beat boss just in duos.
If I see few players with k.o., first I always res Yujin.
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