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KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:11am
Code Analyzers vs Code Breakers
So, if I understand correctly...
- Code Analyzer, Precision Code Analyzer and Ultra-Precision Code Analyzer are meant for Normal difficulty maps.
- Code Breaker, Precision Code Breaker and Ultra-Precision Code Breaker are meant for Hard difficulty maps.

So... Analyzers = Normal, Breakers = Hard. Right?

Then why the heck when I switch to HARD mode and go onto any map, the vaults still ask for ANALYZERS and not the BREAKERS? Am I missing something here?

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UPDATE
APPARENTLY... If you go Hard + Private = the game keeps spawning ANALYZER vaults.
But if you go Hard + PUBLIC = the game spawns BREAKER vaults most of the time(until it doesn't), as intended by the Hard mode.
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Last edited by KitKat; Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:48am
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Friels Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:26am 
yeah i've encountered the same problem, only noticed this after the patch, maybe a bug?
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:29am 
Here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287501296
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287501493

Perhaps it's their attempt at countering people farming that "Anticipated Ambush Point" mission on Sterile Land - Rockfall? Outright replace all hard-mode vaults with normal-mode vaults, so we don't get to use all of our Breakers farmed on that mission.

Because at this point I have 55 Code breakers, 43 Precision and 14 Ultra-precision Breakers... but barely any Analyzers. And I haven't been farming that mission too much... Only a little.
Last edited by KitKat; Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:30am
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:33am 
And it's not just Agna Desert either... So I guess all maps are like this then.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287504008
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287504110

Sadge.
Skillshot Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:45am 
This game only works on Bunny... I dunno what you tryin to play there man... But it's not good...
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by Skillshot:
This game only works on Bunny... I dunno what you tryin to play there man... But it's not good...
Reported for off-topic/attempt to de-rail the thread/rage-baiting.
p00se2 Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:05am 
noticed this too some days ago :lunar2019deadpanpig:



what mission you farming to get all those breakers ?
Exemplifire Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:10am 
Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but am I the only one who seems to have lag trying to do anything other than the base code breakers? Precision and ultra-precision never seem to register my key presses properly.
p00se2 Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Exemplifire:
Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but am I the only one who seems to have lag trying to do anything other than the base code breakers? Precision and ultra-precision never seem to register my key presses properly.


lock fps to 60
vsync
frame gen off
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
noticed this too some days ago :lunar2019deadpanpig:



what mission you farming to get all those breakers ?
Sterile Land - Rockfall - Anticipated Ambush Point. Fastest Kuiper shard farm in the game at the moment, if you go on HARD difficulty. And each run takes around 30seconds. And there's an elite (yellow hp bar) enemy in the end, which has the potential to drop those Code Breakers (of all rarities).

Too bad we can't use them though, ya know? >.>
p00se2 Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:19am 
have you tried switching between private / public lobbies ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:



Originally posted by KitKat:

Sterile Land - Rockfall - Anticipated Ambush Point. Fastest Kuiper shard farm in the game at the moment, if you go on HARD difficulty. And each run takes around 30seconds. And there's an elite (yellow hp bar) enemy in the end, which has the potential to drop those Code Breakers (of all rarities).

what would you say is the drop rate like ?
1 in 2 ?
1 in 4 ?
1 in 8 ?
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
have you tried switching between private / public lobbies ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:
Yup. Does not matter if you go Public/Private, all of HARD mode maps for some reason still have Analyzer vaults, not Breaker vaults.
Originally posted by p00se2:
what would you say is the drop rate like ?
1 in 2 ?
1 in 4 ?
1 in 8 ?
I dunno. I wasn't specifically farming for them though.
p00se2 Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:29am 
hopped 2 zones
found 3 vaults
2 of them for breakers

:lunar2019deadpanpig:

iv not found many ultra rare ones on either difficulty
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
hopped 2 zones
found 3 vaults
2 of them for breakers

:lunar2019deadpanpig:

iv not found many ultra rare ones on either difficulty
So... SOME vaults on Hard are for Breakers, while SOME for Analyzers still? Huh. Let's see if I can find be a few Breaker vaults then...

That's just outright dumb though, considering the descriptions of Anatlyzers/Breakers being rather clear, that one is for Normal, the other for Hard.
Originally posted by KitKat:
Here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287501296
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3287501493
Last edited by KitKat; Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:33am
KitKat Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:44am 
Ok, you know what? I did some more testing and... Wow. If this is intended and not a bug - this is DUMB. Because it's counter-intuitive.

Basically... If you switch to Hard and then PRIVATE - the game spawns Analyzer vaults, like in Normal.

If you switch to Hard and keep PUBLIC - the game spawns Breaker vaults in most cases instead. As intended. Until it doesn't and decides to still give you an Analyzer vault, but that doesn't happen as often.

BRUH. Why.
Last edited by KitKat; Jul 12, 2024 @ 5:50am
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