The First Descendant

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Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:16am
Reactor weapon mounting is trash design
So let's look at the mounting mechanic. I didnt mind it in the beginning, obviously, cuz I didnt have more weapons to use. But now that I have 3 upgraded weapons I realized how stupid this mechanic is. Why on earth do we have 3 weapon slots to carry weapons with us at any time but reactors literally force us to use ONLY ONE of them. Like what the ♥♥♥♥ is the reason here, we cant switch reactors midfight as of last patch so why on earth are we forced to use 1 weapon if we want to use our abilities when we can equip 3.

This gets an even bigger issue once you realize purple ammo weapons are garbage for regular missions. You don't get ANY ammo at all for it if you would want to use it to kill pleb enemies aswell. Only way to properly use it is if you use TWO ammo conversion mods which is complete overkill and straight up stupid (or bad design cuz you are forced into it).

Legendary Reactors should be equip so we can actually use the gear we have on us instead of shooting ourselfes in the knee just for using a different weapon.
This is also extremly stupid and poor design cuz devs would want to emphasize build diversity and encourages people to build up all kinds of different weapons, but what's the point if I dont even have a reactor for it and have to farm a reactor for hours on top of all the other stupid ♥♥♥♥ I have to do. Not like we allready need hours to fully level a weapon.
Last edited by Noop; Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:16am
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Riepah Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:18am 
Yeah I am not a fan of it either.
Maybe if we could equip three reactors, one active at a time, depending on which weapon we're using at that moment...
Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:19am 
Actually I forgot another thing: Weapon swap speed is super obnoxious too. Whoever came up with that should be fired immediatly. You could make the argument switch back to the other weapon if you want to use abilities. Yea maybe if it wasnt obnoxious and slow, and just stupid design in general.

It took WF like 10 years until switching weapons was sped up by like 50%. Now it's almost instantly. WHY ON EARTH DID NEXON IGNORE THAT. You copy all the other stupid ♥♥♥♥ but not the good design? Realy?
Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Yeah I am not a fan of it either.
Maybe if we could equip three reactors, one active at a time, depending on which weapon we're using at that moment...

I thought about that too but that's annoying to do and also just forces you to farm reactors for hours. I rather farm reactors for a character for a bit ONCE and not every single time I want to use a new weapon. Farming, leveling and fully upgrading a weapon takes a ♥♥♥♥ ton of time. We are we forced to put even more time into it ontop, and we cant even pay to skip that one.
Bacuda Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:21am 
I agree it's kinda dumb, they should either make them like the purple reactors, or give us a buff for like a minutes if we switch to a different wep that the reactor requires so we still get the benefit for another minute before we should switch back, or what I really want is red colored reactors that equip on descendants instead of weapons, I think that would feel way better then having to use the same wep all the time.
Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by Bacuda:
I agree it's kinda dumb, they should either make them like the purple reactors, or give us a buff for like a minutes if we switch to a different wep that the reactor requires so we still get the benefit for another minute before we should switch back, or what I really want is red colored reactors that equip on descendants instead of weapons, I think that would feel way better then having to use the same wep all the time.

Also interesting idea, but this might be a little too convoluted instead of just changing it to be equipped like purple reactors. You want to keep the game simple for new players, cuz otherwise you run into the warframe issues for new players.

Maybe having a descendant on a reactor instead of a weapon would work too. Seems more reasonable at least^^
Desna Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Not a fan either but, i think the design reasoning is that the ultimate reactor are mainly for the Descendant who rely on skill damage more so than weapons, they can enjoy the 20% more dmg to skills from it. Rare reactor are basically the same with 140% skill dmg instead of 160%. I use rare reactor on gley for example and ultimate on bunny and viessa who really don't need more than 1 weapon.

But i do agree that they could change it, some Descendant like Enzo wouldn't mind 20% extra on his skills without being locked to 1 weapon.
Last edited by Desna; Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:26am
SweetStarfieldFan Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:25am 
+1
This needs to be patched asap.
Reactors need to give the bonus if ANY of the 3 weaponsslots is the weapon highlighted.
It should not matter if active or passive as long as in one of the 3 slots u have this weapon.

Or my new idea:
Or make it depending on the proficiency level of the weapon!? If the level of the weapon is only level 1, you only get level 1 bonus, but if its maxed out at 40, you get the full level bonus from the reactor.
Would make sense. Dont let it limit to having it active, which is stupid as you have to swap and change weapons cause you run out of ammo constantly.
Hybernian Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:25am 
They should just lower the droprates and keep the yellow reactors niche.
Setian Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:26am 
It shouldn't be mounting if you ask me..
If mounting was 160% and every other non mounted weapon 140% it would be fine... a lot more flexibility that way. Like for examle:

Thundercage legendary
Mounted 160% SP
Equipped 140% SP
Not equipped 100% SP

Now I'm forced to basically only use 1 weapon, which is stupid and I would be better off using a purple most of the time...
Last edited by Setian; Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:29am
Maya-Neko Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:27am 
It's a decision to make: Either specialize on one weapon and get extra boosts or try to be a jack of all traits and get a lesser, but more versatile bonus. There's nothing wrong with using purple reactors for that reason. The 20 % increase isn't so big, that purple reactors get useless due to it, especially when you obviously build around your weapons anyway as it seems.

That said, decide what kind of playstyle you want to build for. For example when using bunny, i'm usually close up when attacking big amounts of enemies, so it makes sense to have a golden reactor with Thundercage as my main weapon. If i'm backing out to regain shield or evade aoes and in that time using other ranged weapons, there's literally no need for me to also have higher ability numbers, since i'm too far away to hit enemies with my abilities anyway.
Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:29am 
I think it's also much better design to use it as equipped cuz you want people to farm new weapons and then put catalysts and stuff into it which they might buy in the shop. This way people only ever upgrade 1 weapon to use the reactor, why would they get another one.

It should be incentivized to easily use new weapons that you upgrade instead of having to go out of your way to farm a reactor that might not even be in the game at the current time of you looking at it.
Grimzy Jul 23, 2024 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by Noop:
I think it's also much better design to use it as equipped cuz you want people to farm new weapons and then put catalysts and stuff into it which they might buy in the shop. This way people only ever upgrade 1 weapon to use the reactor, why would they get another one.

It should be incentivized to easily use new weapons that you upgrade instead of having to go out of your way to farm a reactor that might not even be in the game at the current time of you looking at it.


Because what you are saying will never happen. Simply put there are weapons which are simply best to use and no one in their right mind would go get another. I would actually say the current design is what makes people farm for specific weapons which are often difficult to get parts for.

Also the ultimate reactors are a trade off, exactly the same as ultimate modules and ultimate component sets. You get a extra power boost but you sacrifice other things.
If you do not like that then use a purple reactor.
Artemis Jul 23, 2024 @ 7:03am 
The Purple mounting makes sense, it's 'an assault rifle', 'a sniper rifle', etc. I was surprised it didn't continue to Gold reactors, it would at least make it a bit more reasonable (especially since they are going to again add more weapons to the game on Aug 1st.)
Galroche Jul 23, 2024 @ 7:16am 
devs don't care, because bunny players don't care. and the game is design around bunny.
Hardkorowy Jul 23, 2024 @ 7:24am 
What are you talking about? You just need that weapon in one of 3 slots but you dont need to use it. Reactor will work even if you switch to other two weapons,
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