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DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:51am
Don't buy customization colors for your skins and weapons!
Don't buy colors for your characters if you've already bought a skin! It's a rip-off. When you buy a paint, it says it in the plural, which should mean the color works on all your characters once you have a skin. But that's not the case. The paint will only be usable on the character you bought it for.

It's totally ridiculous and a sneaky way to boost sales. Compared to that, free paints are accessible as long as you haven't used them yet. A number next to the paint shows how much you have. If you remove that paint, it can be used on all characters. But that's not the case for paid paints. You're forced to buy the paint for each character you want to use it on.

Be careful and don't get fooled by this unfair practice.
Last edited by DannSKiller; Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:56am
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😎Astran😾 Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:00am 
This weekend I've bought a can of beer (one of many I've drank during weekend) which cost the same as 6 paints in the game. And to my surprise I couldn't re-drink it, it was just gone in 30 minutes (or less). Can you imagine such a horror? You pay for an item and it's not only a single-time use, but lasts only 30 minutes. This practice is so unfair :lunar2019piginablanket:

> free paints are accessible as long as you haven't used them yet. A number next to the paint shows how much you have. If you remove that paint, it can be used on all characters.

And this is certainly a bug or misunderstanding of the mechanic.
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Setian Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:06am 
Don't tell us what to do
DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Astran:
This weekend I've bought a can of beer (one of many I've drank during weekend) which cost the same as 6 paints in the game. Perhaps you need a better job - or maybe any job :lunar2019piginablanket:
A very interesting comment! You have a great mindset, but it highlights your inability to understand the issue. It's not about the price... the problem lies in the practice. Sure, it might only be a few cents, but if 200,000 players get tricked by looking at the colors, and they don't choose the character they want to get the color for, they are simply being scammed.
Actionhanz Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:12am 
Dyes are usuable once on a specific skin, after you apply, lets say, 5 different colors on a skin, they are saved to that specific skin only. You can change those 5 colos for that skin in different order as much as you want then. So if you have 3 skins for 3 different descendants and you want the base color lets say white, you would need white 3 times.

Its a fkn weird and unnecessary system, especially when there isnt even a real black color, im not kidding, no black lol.
😎Astran😾 Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:13am 
Would you prefer Black Desert payment model? Unlimited dyes for a mere $15/month, and the dyes vanish the moment you stop the subscription :lunar2019piginablanket:

It can always get worse. I've seen developers simply shutdown the feature to stop players' whining. And with the dyes costing pennies - the devs are likely very close to the threshold of removing them from the game completely :lunar2019scowlingpig:
Last edited by 😎Astran😾; Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:14am
Setian Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:24am 
If you want to colour every cosmetic but you don't wanna pay for it

Is what I hear... it is not that expensive and you have a lot of freedom to work around...
If they added permanent colours for every skin you own the colour would've been a lot more expensive...

I would worry more about the colour presentation being nice in the menu but terrible in world... or the missing colours like black and the not able to color parts.
DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Setian:
If you want to colour every cosmetic but you don't wanna pay for it

Is what I hear... it is not that expensive and you have a lot of freedom to work around...
If they added permanent colours for every skin you own the colour would've been a lot more expensive...

I would worry more about the colour presentation being nice in the menu but terrible in world... or the missing colours like black and the not able to color parts.
I don't know which game you're referring to, and that's clearly not the point. It's indicated in the plural on the labels, which means it should be possible to apply it to any skin if it isn't equipped, and that's not the case. The very principle of paying for something and being able to enjoy it as stated in the announcement is simply not respected. It's a deliberate choice on their part since it's possible to do this with the free ones.
SweetStarfieldFan Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:27am 
I am ok with paying for colors, but then I want to own that color and use it as many times as I want.

The one time use is the rip-off here.
And also that you can only use it for one slot. Like if I want to color my skin and my headgear, I need two colors. This is shady and anti consumer.
Crash Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by DannSKiller:
Originally posted by Astran:
This weekend I've bought a can of beer (one of many I've drank during weekend) which cost the same as 6 paints in the game. Perhaps you need a better job - or maybe any job :lunar2019piginablanket:
A very interesting comment! You have a great mindset, but it highlights your inability to understand the issue. It's not about the price... the problem lies in the practice. Sure, it might only be a few cents, but if 200,000 players get tricked by looking at the colors, and they don't choose the character they want to get the color for, they are simply being scammed.

There is no problem. This is people making up a problem. Just because perhaps some other game let you buy a skin colour (GW2 for example) and you can use it infinitely, it doesn't suddenly mean every other game has to follow suit.

The skin paints are stupidly cheap. It's only an issue if you're indecisive and wan't to re-custom every other minute.

If I ask to get a wall painted in a single room for one price, and then suddenly decide that I want it a different colour, it's going to cost me again.

I swear, gamers are some of the most whiney and cheapest people I know.
DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by ProfessorSimonGamePhilosopher:
I am ok with paying for colors, but then I want to own that color and use it as many times as I want.

The one time use is the rip-off here.
And also that you can only use it for one slot. Like if I want to color my skin and my headgear, I need two colors. This is shady and anti consumer.
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't even realize you had to pay multiple times for different parts of the body! It's even worse than I thought.
DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by Crash:
Originally posted by DannSKiller:
A very interesting comment! You have a great mindset, but it highlights your inability to understand the issue. It's not about the price... the problem lies in the practice. Sure, it might only be a few cents, but if 200,000 players get tricked by looking at the colors, and they don't choose the character they want to get the color for, they are simply being scammed.

There is no problem. This is people making up a problem. Just because perhaps some other game let you buy a skin colour (GW2 for example) and you can use it infinitely, it doesn't suddenly mean every other game has to follow suit.

The skin paints are stupidly cheap. It's only an issue if you're indecisive and wan't to re-custom every other minute.

If I ask to get a wall painted in a single room for one price, and then suddenly decide that I want it a different colour, it's going to cost me again.

I swear, gamers are some of the most whiney and cheapest people I know.


I spent €30 on skins just for the visual pleasure of the game. I found out you can change the color whenever you want, which is cool for customizing your skin. After buying some nicer colors with Bunny (because I was doing missions with her at the time), I switched to my main character, Viessa, only to find that the paint was gone. There’s no need to beat around the bush; it’s just a scam. As I said, the description clearly states it would work with all characters. So yeah, I’m complaining, and I have every right to.
Last edited by DannSKiller; Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:44am
Skyper Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Astran:
Would you prefer Black Desert payment model? Unlimited dyes for a mere $15/month, and the dyes vanish the moment you stop the subscription :lunar2019piginablanket:

It can always get worse. I've seen developers simply shutdown the feature to stop players' whining. And with the dyes costing pennies - the devs are likely very close to the threshold of removing them from the game completely :lunar2019scowlingpig:
Better warframe model, you buy palette of 100 dyes for 75 platinum(0.75 bucks with 75% sale) and use it infinitely at any frame or operator
Noop Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:44am 
Dude skins are 20 bucks in the first place. The game isnt set up to be consumer friendly. Just dont buy anything honestly.
I got a skin cuz I played the game for a ♥♥♥♥ ton of time by now and Im totally in to support devs so they can keep going and improve the game, but that doesnt change the fact that stuff in this game is horribly overpriced and I will not spend a lot of money due to that. I spend couple hundred in WF up to this point cuz it's made very very fair, and even the community artists who made the skins get 30% of the revenue. But I dont feel good to give a company money that obviously try to scam me in the shop at every single corner, that just doesnt feel right.
DannSKiller Jul 23, 2024 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Noop:
Dude skins are 20 bucks in the first place. The game isnt set up to be consumer friendly. Just dont buy anything honestly.
I got a skin cuz I played the game for a ♥♥♥♥ ton of time by now and Im totally in to support devs so they can keep going and improve the game, but that doesnt change the fact that stuff in this game is horribly overpriced and I will not spend a lot of money due to that. I spend couple hundred in WF up to this point cuz it's made very very fair, and even the community artists who made the skins get 30% of the revenue. But I dont feel good to give a company money that obviously try to scam me in the shop at every single corner, that just doesnt feel right.

I wouldn’t have been able to try a color on another character if I didn’t have at least 2 skins.
I’ll be talking to my credit card about this:

Bunny Albion 750 Caliber
Viessa Bloody Rose 750 Caliber
1000 + 60 19.99
500 + 20 9.99

Nice try, though.
TemplarGFX Jul 23, 2024 @ 6:00am 
I will buy what I want with my money and screw anyone that tells me how to spend it. I earned it and I will do with it whatever I please
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