Sorry for messing up your farming

[Aliantha]

I seem to be pissing people off. I don't know if this Valby farming is legal or not and I don't really care. I need the Amorphous drop from the Fortress stronghold to try and get Ajax so I have killed a few bosses and it's really making people mad. If I could solo it, I would, but I'm playing the game as intended and really not trying to mess up your farm, but it's the only place to get the amorphous 45, so, if I pissed you off, sorry.. will stop as soon as I get the Ajax item!

[Rooxon]

Yeah guys, the devs responded about this. Not only are they gonna allow this farm to remain, they're bringing other farms up to speed so anyone can do it in many ways.

[Castera]

dont know anymore for farming prime version just play until boring and retired

[The Vengeful Sins]

just keep doing you man, if they not happy they can just make their Valby runs private

[Boss]

Joikax lähetti viestin:

Kuiper mine is literally the same spawncamp fest that the fortress outpost is, meaning any afk farmer like Jayber or Valby are just as efficient as a bunny jumping if not more so, due to spawn timing mismatch with bunny's jump aoe trigger.

You're accusing me of pulling excuses yet you don't even seem to be aware of how to effectivelly farm one of the most farmable missions everyone has known about for a week prior to the outpost finding and using "first come first served" mentality while invoking "democracy" literally the next sentence.

I already told you, you're not convincing anyone.

Is this a joke?

Are you... seriously talking about Sterile Land's Kuiper Mine SpecOps? Because the gold from that isn't fast.

You're also wrong about Valby being anywhere near close enough in speed. Her inability to grapple/jump during her mode (and low AoE range) means she's not even close. Bunny with always on 2 can move between the camps with absolute ease.

But it's actually hillarious to me you're not only suggesting a worse Gold farm location, but completely forgot that the Fortress Outpost was the best Kuiper farm AND dropped modules/items/reactors in excessive amounts. AND you leveled faster. Especially weapons.

Versus something that only drops gold. That's great.

The Vengeful Sins lähetti viestin:

just keep doing you man, if they not happy they can just make their Valby runs private

Or report him. I'm a fan of the majority winning that.

[Shyba]

Boss lähetti viestin:

Joikax lähetti viestin:

Kuiper mine is literally the same spawncamp fest that the fortress outpost is, meaning any afk farmer like Jayber or Valby are just as efficient as a bunny jumping if not more so, due to spawn timing mismatch with bunny's jump aoe trigger.

You're accusing me of pulling excuses yet you don't even seem to be aware of how to effectivelly farm one of the most farmable missions everyone has known about for a week prior to the outpost finding and using "first come first served" mentality while invoking "democracy" literally the next sentence.

I already told you, you're not convincing anyone.

Is this a joke?

Are you... seriously talking about Sterile Land's Kuiper Mine SpecOps? Because the gold from that isn't fast.

You're also wrong about Valby being anywhere near close enough in speed. Her inability to grapple/jump during her mode (and low AoE range) means she's not even close. Bunny with always on 2 can move between the camps with absolute ease.

But it's actually hillarious to me you're not only suggesting a worse Gold farm location, but completely forgot that the Fortress Outpost was the best Kuiper farm AND dropped modules/items/reactors in excessive amounts. AND you leveled faster. Especially weapons.

Versus something that only drops gold. That's great.

The Vengeful Sins lähetti viestin:

just keep doing you man, if they not happy they can just make their Valby runs private

Or report him. I'm a fan of the majority winning that.

no they are talking abou that one mission where you have to "collect" 6 of those blue orbs but people farm it for the same reason infinite spawn enemies till you finish it.

[Boss]

Shyba lähetti viestin:

no they are talking abou that one mission where you have to "collect" 6 of those blue orbs but people farm it for the same reason infinite spawn enemies till you finish it.

Nothing is going to beat the 35 second bunny farm... well. Except Valby's Gold farm. I *think* it's still better, but I'll have to rerun numbers.

[Krome Skulz]

To tell you the truth, I am annoyed by the Bunny characters running around but if they make my farm easier I can put up with it. So tired of trying to get a chance of a drop just so I can get another chance of a drop which I believe actually makes the item we're trying to get an even lower chance due to it being dependent on the drop before it. Farming in this game just is not fun imo.

And Valby wasn't even a character I wanted but after I just happened to get her drops while just playing I built her and like her a lot so if I see a Valby I am fine with whatever that player wants to do. Do your thing man. You won't find me complaining.

To each their own.

[Boss]

The grind in this game and Warframe are less bad than getting stuff in a traditional MMO...

...but god are they unfun. TFD's Outpost farm and void shard reactors, though, are on another level of soul killing.

[Shyba]

Boss lähetti viestin:

Shyba lähetti viestin:

no they are talking abou that one mission where you have to "collect" 6 of those blue orbs but people farm it for the same reason infinite spawn enemies till you finish it.

Nothing is going to beat the 35 second bunny farm... well. Except Valby's Gold farm. I *think* it's still better, but I'll have to rerun numbers.

fairly certain abandoned refinery is still faster but Valby is mindless and can be done with 0 investment vs bunny who needs at least SOME investment due to random elite modifiers causing potential issues
Refinery can also be done by ANYONE in 30~ seconds with enough gearing where Valby farm needs Valby to work well (AZ Viessa "might" work if you can keep the boss off the frost roads at least + no phasing through enemies so gotta actually "think" a little)

[Tiramisu]

I'm sorry to say but it's about to get worse. People who found out about the method 2 days ago will be having their Valby research time finishing around now

[Rooxon]

Guys, subscribe to official dev posts on their official social media. They're gonna *allow* this farm with a few tweaks and bring others up to speed for us.

[austiinos]

I typically only do private for hunting for patterns since I only do them stealth. And stealth I never trust a public lobby in the first place no matter which outpost.

[Joikax]

Boss lähetti viestin:

Is this a joke?

Are you... seriously talking about Sterile Land's Kuiper Mine SpecOps? Because the gold from that isn't fast.

...Sigh...

Kuiper Mine - Transport Disruption; In the Repository area.

Don't do the objectives, just kill the neverending spawning mobs in the central platform.

Boss lähetti viestin:

You're also wrong about Valby being anywhere near close enough in speed. Her inability to grapple/jump during her mode (and low AoE range) means she's not even close. Bunny with always on 2 can move between the camps with absolute ease.

You don't need speed for those missions, just leave the water trails over the spawns and pull up a movie on your second monitor.

Bunny's inability to just sit in place and watch things die while you eat a cupcake makes characters like Valby prefferable in certain farming missions, kuiper mine being one of them. Bunny is not de facto optimal for every single farming trip in the game even if that's what the average player wrongly assumes.

Boss lähetti viestin:

But it's actually hillarious to me you're not only suggesting a worse Gold farm location, but completely forgot that the Fortress Outpost was the best Kuiper farm AND dropped modules/items/reactors in excessive amounts. AND you leveled faster. Especially weapons

Worse off of what?, you didn't even know it existed prior to me telling you, how can you even begin to compare?
Newsflash: It also drops equipment and modules alongside consumables (code breakers/analyzers) which the outpost does not.

Don't like kuiper mine? Try out Anticipated Ambush Point in Rockfall area of the same zone.
Only hurdle is the elite at the end but you can easily dispatch it from a distance and trigger the mission terminal for a restart, the second after. Just leave Valby puddles or Jayber's turret around the area like usual.
That elite can be the source of many drops you won't find in your trash loot table so it's a matter of perspective on whether or not that's worth the extra effort killing it every minute but if you're "farming" anything I assume you have pretty good dps on your gun so you waste no time killing it.

Don't like either of those? Try out Abandoned Refinery Unit in the Abandoned Zone of Echo Swamp. This one is clearly better as bunny due to tankier units at the end but Valby can cover the whole place in water and not lose more than 20 seconds on average per run assuming your gun is half good. Not optimal but it is doable with her.
I can assure you that in terms of xp and loot you will find this far more lucrative than fortress outpost but like I said it requires a properly built bunny for it.

Still not liking the options? Try out Command Relay - Frozen Valley - Fortress.
It's pretty decent with bunny and a breeze with Valby. Not stelar but it's decent enough.

Still not your cup of tea? Try out Fortress Outskirts - Shipment Base - Hagios.
Bunny or Valby it's the same exact thing. Trigger all the objective areas and cover the whole place in water, watch as everything dies and wait out the timers.




Valby was never underperforming or lacking in farming capabilities, people simply weren't spoonfed with a literal exploit involving her and so they didn't bother thinking outside the bunny bubble.

[EmperorVolo]

There is a private mode genius. Those players are playing legitmately as well.

[Boss]

Shyba lähetti viestin:

Boss lähetti viestin:

Nothing is going to beat the 35 second bunny farm... well. Except Valby's Gold farm. I *think* it's still better, but I'll have to rerun numbers.

fairly certain abandoned refinery is still faster but Valby is mindless and can be done with 0 investment vs bunny who needs at least SOME investment due to random elite modifiers causing potential issues
Refinery can also be done by ANYONE in 30~ seconds with enough gearing where Valby farm needs Valby to work well (AZ Viessa "might" work if you can keep the boss off the frost roads at least + no phasing through enemies so gotta actually "think" a little)

This wasn't true prior to nerf. I haven't run a comparison since.

Refinery cannot be run by anyone. I'm happy to add you and do a play test. This is factually incorrect. And 30 seconds to boot is essentially impossible: you don't move fast enough. 34~43 is the general speed metric. Bunny is also faster at dungeons, because, again, it requires movement. Valby's slower movement speed with no grapple/jump guarantees she's slower.

You COULD form the most crazy daisy-chain four man Valby squad to maybe do it instantly by knowing the exact spawn locations and positioning every one at a specific junction during the mission... but that's an insane amount of work I think no one has done, and requires a full team versus just yourself.

...And would be slower than a full Bunny squad doing the exact same thing. What micro seconds they'd lose from not super instant killing every mob, Valby would lose on the hard elites. Especially if the last bunny is rocking High Voltage.