Bossing being to hard.

[Stronk]

A lot of people are complaining about bossing being to hard for some reason. Prioritize survivability! Rather have someone doing mediocre damage and not dying than a bunny player specing all her mods into damage and dying every 3 seconds. And boss elements, use a element on your weapon that the boss is weak to. You will do like 20-30% more damage than whatever your weapon has on, same as resistance. There now you have a right to complain if you keep failing.

[PølseJuice]

A lot of people are bad at the game, and refuse to improve.

TLDR: Get more hp,

[Levihime]

problem with gatekeep. for a new player - you must farm a lot to first solo kill a first hard colosus ... for example. i have lighting cage with 6\8 max lvl modules, hit with a 240k crit dmg in world ... but crit only 40-50k to colosus\dungeon bosses with a crit. I can beat a first hard boss solo, but cant others. Its took too many time for killing btw.
And for all of this, i dont see that i progress enough. i spend a week to lvl up cage to 6\8, and receive only solo hard first boss.

[D. Flame]

It is because of the P2W timers on Dead Bride and Devourer. Remove the timers and you will also remove most of the complaints.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Levihime:

problem with gatekeep. for a new player - you must farm a lot to first solo kill a first hard colosus ... for example. i have lighting cage with 6\8 max lvl modules, hit with a 240k crit dmg in world ... but crit only 40-50k to colosus\dungeon bosses with a crit. I can beat a first hard boss solo, but cant others. Its took too many time for killing btw.
And for all of this, i dont see that i progress enough. i spend a week to lvl up cage to 6\8, and receive only solo hard first boss.

in hard every zone gives buffs. so if you're critting 240k that's because there's some goofy buff that's buffing you.

lightning cage sucks for bosses, its ability triggers an AE and is a waste. a well rolled purple outdamages cage on bosses.

so this sounds like a you problem. you're probably also chasing DPS numbers instead of using mods that actually increase kill speeds on bosses. spoiler, the highest DPS number on weapons is LOWER boss damage than anti-boss mods (eg, stacking crit will get you a 500k+ dps number on the sheet, but is SLOWER kill on a boss than stacking weak point damage which makes the sheet read 280k).

it's your choice to try and solo it. soloing obviously requires more farming than being in a group, which is why solo hard bosses are vastly weaker than when you're with a group.

it's obviously much more efficient to farm bosses with a group to get the mods/weps/sets that make it easier to solo.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

It is because of the P2W timers on Dead Bride and Devourer. Remove the timers and you will also remove most of the complaints.

there is no p2w in the game. as evidenced in the other thread you don't know the basics of how the game works and think that just because devourer regens to full it's "too hard," when the entire gimmick of that fight is that it's just slower with 1 or even 2 major regens before you melt the boss when the weak points are down.

build around weak point damage and it's a fast kill, no p2w needed, just like the rest of the game. guarantee your build and/or skill is just bad with clear issues or mistakes that could be fixed with minor changes.

[Blastie89]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

It is because of the P2W timers on Dead Bride and Devourer. Remove the timers and you will also remove most of the complaints.

I suggest we even give bosses 1hp to make things a bit easier. Why even bother fighting them!

[alan0n]

Bosses are fine, get your gear and build decent. This is a game that revolves around grinding, grind some better stuff/upgrade your mods/prestige your guns/characters.

If you cant solo it (and the game allows you to solo it) it is highly likely that you or your build are the problem.

[TyresTyco]

The tracking on some attacks could use a tad nerf tho. The big ball attack that spits out smaller balls is incredibly obnoxious.

[♥ Seedyta ♥]

Originally posted by Stronk:

A lot of people are complaining about bossing being to hard for some reason. Prioritize survivability! Rather have someone doing mediocre damage and not dying than a bunny player specing all her mods into damage and dying every 3 seconds. And boss elements, use a element on your weapon that the boss is weak to. You will do like 20-30% more damage than whatever your weapon has on, same as resistance. There now you have a right to complain if you keep failing.

You always like to compare everything to Bunny, but all the characters die quickly without any survival. Stop always making Bunny the weakest character in the game. Personally, I play Bunny as my main character, and I'm not constantly getting knocked out. All characters need optimization, that's all. And all the bosses can be defeated easily if people put in a little effort to optimize.

[Greldinart]

1/get "the tamer", increase his lvl to 100.
2/change his stats, aim for % crit damage, %crit rate, %atq, now lets say the base stats can be 186000. its enough for clean all the game..
2/put an activator on it-->limit 50->80
3/put at least 2 x crystallizer on it--> so a max slot 16->8...
4/fill with module maxxed %crit damage, %crit rate, %rof, %atq, and the rest up to you, you can reach 600k dps on this weapon check youtube
all you need is lvl100, 1 activator, few crystallizer.... get a good purple weapon is vital before increase the character with activator crystal, because this weapon can go on all your character and will help you reroll, whereas grow a gold weapon take really age of farming sicne you need 5 of each.^^

for a character, 16HP, 16DEF in module is the minimum, and go for increase def hp with accessories, but personally in hard mode, i drop the good accessories for get all the %kuiper, %loot %gold, %xp, %xp weapon. except for boss.
the hardcap in the game with colossus is the pyroman normal (dps resist check), hanged normal (teamplay check), in hard its frostwalker(heavy teamplay tanking/dodge check)

for your informatiuon you dont get activator crystallizeer in shop (except the one offer with ultim character.) and even a good character is nothing sicne all the power come from the upgrade module who need lot of crystallizer and lot of gold kuiper farmed.

[RedFaster]

People who don't know what they're talking about tend to say the same things.

It's actually simple if you look realistically at what you have to do to achieve a goal.

Guns do damage so upgrade your damage mods on your gun.

Characters take damage so upgrade the defense mods on your character.

Everything else is just extra details to keep things fun.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by ffrotty:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

It is because of the P2W timers on Dead Bride and Devourer. Remove the timers and you will also remove most of the complaints.

there is no p2w in the game. as evidenced in the other thread you don't know the basics of how the game works

I already posted videos of my initial, solo kills:

Dead Bride:
https://youtu.be/AzV9edYn-eY?si=rr3fCiipyVIZcbB9

Devourer:
https://youtu.be/mrkRvFS3AOU?si=eNWUs7euVqv87157

Still waiting on you to post yours, rather than just resorting to logical fallacies because you know you lost on the facts.

[Dreed]

The most problems with the boss are some major small part to destroy that are too small, bosses moves very fast and it's hard to hit. Most of skill cant be aimed directly to these parts, additional problem is a ammo, for god sake... i'm almost every single time out of ammo. My skills can't aiming these part. This is insane because only few Descendant can be cable to play normally - that needs to be fixed

Another thing - Frostwalker, small parts to destroy on his MOVING legs... rly... Mechanics with instant kill if someone didn't pickup 6 flames and all need to stay in circle - on last game, we all died there because boss put all skills in our direction.
Flames appear mostly after remove boss parts - all are above and hard to hit from the ground, boss all the time dancing - flames sometimes didn't count, I collect it and nothing happen. Flames can drop outside the arena. Flames are removed after boss hit... RLY... Boss aiming is almost perfect, many times tried to avoid dmg but nothing.

I don't care about bosses because the loot mechanics - farm item from the world with 6% of drop rate - then kill the boss and maybe u get something that u need, double RNG. But the bosses droped skills and this is INSANE, It's ok to cover the skill on 1st 3 bosses on HARD mode but not on all of them. I'm not boss like player but Im forced to do it because of the skill drop. Stupid, and this will push back many players from the game.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Greldinart:

1/get "the tamer", increase his lvl to 100.
2/change his stats, aim for % crit damage, %crit rate, %atq, now lets say the base stats can be 186000. its enough for clean all the game..

bzzzzzt dps paperdoll chaser detected.

tamer's highest dps is weak point damage because it has horrible base crit %.

the paper doll is just useless, do not refer to that.

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by ffrotty:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

It is because of the P2W timers on Dead Bride and Devourer. Remove the timers and you will also remove most of the complaints.

there is no p2w in the game. as evidenced in the other thread you don't know the basics of how the game works and think that just because devourer regens to full it's "too hard," when the entire gimmick of that fight is that it's just slower with 1 or even 2 major regens before you melt the boss when the weak points are down.

build around weak point damage and it's a fast kill, no p2w needed, just like the rest of the game. guarantee your build and/or skill is just bad with clear issues or mistakes that could be fixed with minor changes.

Best advice I can give you is to stop arguing with Mr Always Right. That dude will only make you angry.