High level / Geared players in lower level content.

[Dilapidated Potato]

Doing anything in this game when someone else is just one shotting every mob before you can do anything to participate is absolute cancer. There isn't any point in playing the game if other people are just gonna do everything.

Then when they aren't doing everything they're just dying all over the place.

Honestly I'm sick and tired of playing multiplayer co-op games where you just get dragged kicking and screaming through every dungeon, or you have to ride the struggle bus cause the game hasn't given you any toxic resistance items.

I wanna either play the game with my friends or I wanna play alone. Every other person in my game is either dead weight or stealing my joy by doing everything before I do and it pisses me off.

When I play in a private instance the game is fun, until you run into some fight or encounter that is clearly intended to be fought by multiple people and then it sucks.

I really think you guys need to retune/design this game to be solo'd. Other people ruin it.

[bigjimbo84]

Simple solution is stop playing, this game requires farming and loads of it. Hence high level players doing lower content as it's required for mats. Do private or with friends if it annoys you that much or just get to the same level then you'll appreciate why it happens.

[Boink]

Dude if you don't appreciate others helping you for something you will eventually do REPEATEDLY then I'm sorry.

Do a private instance and solo it.

[Sharkal]

It's the same in more difficult content. The characters are completely unbalanced.

[Moga CMDR]

You have the solution. Play solo when you want, play party when you want/need.

You need to adapt to any game you play. People need to use the tools they have.

But if you really think other people ruin it, play a single-player game. They are not going to turn this into a truly SP experience. You are barking up the wrong tree.

I get it, everyone on steam is upset about something. But it is not that serious. So take a break, think about it tomorrow, and decide.

[[UNQL]Tango]

This is a problem in every MMO, if you are not there at the start, then the pros expect you to know everything and don't "waste time" with listening to story/watch cutscenes etc.

In another game I was thinking about creating a guild where players go slow in the dungeons. I didn't do it in the end, because I got bored with the game. Here I was lucky enough to be here quite early, so I didn't have very bad experience.

I was farming for several days to unlock a character. While with some content, it doesn't really matter if a well geared player quickly kills the instance, I absolutely agree, that there should be a solution for this issue. Today I was farming a zone end dungeon and I rushed as fast as I could, because when you do it for the 10th-20th time, you don't really care about it.

I think when you queue for a mission, there should be a checkbox like "1st time here". If you check it, the game would team you up with people who also checked it. It might lengthen the queue for these people, but also would give them much better gaming experience.

[Moga CMDR]

Originally posted by UNQLTango:

I think when you queue for a mission, there should be a checkbox like "1st time here".

That function won't get used, and will make things worse for people. And it's a waste of dev effort. I know, I know, you believe it is a solution.

It is not. However, I believe you can make premade groups. That is how you can solve for it.

[stonking.com]

Playing solo is more fun, more challenging and less stress

[Dilapidated Potato]

Originally posted by Boink:

Dude if you don't appreciate others helping you for something you will eventually do REPEATEDLY then I'm sorry.

They aren't helping, they're turbo stomping the content to the point where nobody else can participate. You might as well just pay Nexon to skip playing the game if you are just gonna follow someone else around while they play the game for you.

They're the ones that should be soloing it.
They're literally ruining the experience for everyone else playing.

[Boink]

Originally posted by Dilapidated Potato:

Originally posted by Boink:

Dude if you don't appreciate others helping you for something you will eventually do REPEATEDLY then I'm sorry.

They aren't helping, they're turbo stomping the content to the point where nobody else can participate. You might as well just pay Nexon to skip playing the game if you are just gonna follow someone else around while they play the game for you.

They're the ones that should be soloing it.
They're literally ruining the experience for everyone else playing.

So are you telling me that they need a queue match up to your gear? So you can "participate"?

There is PRIVATE and PUBLIC. Utilize it. Most players repeat operations many times to get specific loots in a Looter shooter. Similar to most MMO games, if you don't like to get carried. Solo it, the option is there.

[Prinny]

i like to do the quests with others of my same level to feel the dificulty and company BUT only in the first run, but after the first experience having others to do the farm job for you is welcome for me xD

[Dilapidated Potato]

Originally posted by Boink:

Originally posted by Dilapidated Potato:

They aren't helping, they're turbo stomping the content to the point where nobody else can participate. You might as well just pay Nexon to skip playing the game if you are just gonna follow someone else around while they play the game for you.

They're the ones that should be soloing it.
They're literally ruining the experience for everyone else playing.

So are you telling me that they need a queue match up to your gear? So you can "participate"?

There is PRIVATE and PUBLIC. Utilize it. Most players repeat operations many times to get specific loots in a Looter shooter. Similar to most MMO games, if you don't like to get carried. Solo it, the option is there.

Did I hit a nerve? You seem legitimately offended at the concept that someone would want to actually play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. It's like you seem to think that you're providing some kind of service and how dare someone not appreciate it.

Well, I don't. I don't at all. I think it is a HUGE waste of my time. It'd be like going to the gym and asking someone to spot you, then having them walk in and shove you off the bench so they can lift 3x what you were going to lift, and expecting you to thank them afterwards.

The only thing I'm thinking when I'm in a dungeon with someone doing this, is that they're only here because they can't do content their own level and this made them feel better about it.

So instead of me getting the actual experience intended by the developers, I just have to watch someone else play the game in order to progress my game, unless I want to waste an hour of my life struggling on something that is blatantly not designed to be solo'd.

The TL;DR -- Is that I don't want a magical que to play with other people. I want the game to acknowledge when I'm playing solo, and not give missions where I need to cap 3 objectives simultaneously, with a timer that would be hysterically easy with another person but is extremely punishing if I do it alone.

[76561197988918266]

Originally posted by Dilapidated Potato:

missions where I need to cap 3 objectives simultaneously, with a timer that would be hysterically easy with another person but is extremely punishing if I do it alone.

This is not a thing.

If you think you have no time to capture them by standing on them...try stepping off and activating all of them...

[Maya-Neko]

The game is asking for a lot of grinding, so that's what these players are doing. And when the devs put stuff behind normal mode only, then there's not that much they can do about it.

[☆トンベリさん☆ AKA Swegfesh]

Originally posted by Dilapidated Potato:

Originally posted by Boink:

So are you telling me that they need a queue match up to your gear? So you can "participate"?

There is PRIVATE and PUBLIC. Utilize it. Most players repeat operations many times to get specific loots in a Looter shooter. Similar to most MMO games, if you don't like to get carried. Solo it, the option is there.

Did I hit a nerve? You seem legitimately offended at the concept that someone would want to actually play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. It's like you seem to think that you're providing some kind of service and how dare someone not appreciate it.

Well, I don't. I don't at all. I think it is a HUGE waste of my time. It'd be like going to the gym and asking someone to spot you, then having them walk in and shove you off the bench so they can lift 3x what you were going to lift, and expecting you to thank them afterwards.

The only thing I'm thinking when I'm in a dungeon with someone doing this, is that they're only here because they can't do content their own level and this made them feel better about it.

So instead of me getting the actual experience intended by the developers, I just have to watch someone else play the game in order to progress my game, unless I want to waste an hour of my life struggling on something that is blatantly not designed to be solo'd.

The TL;DR -- Is that I don't want a magical que to play with other people. I want the game to acknowledge when I'm playing solo, and not give missions where I need to cap 3 objectives simultaneously, with a timer that would be hysterically easy with another person but is extremely punishing if I do it alone.

Not sure why you think you struck a nerve. The person put emphasis on wording so you'd understand better. If you want to play the mission without being carried, play private. If you want to be carried, play public. Simple as that!

As for your psychoanalysis of why people play missions; They do it because they need a specific item that only drops there. Be it material, mods or parts. Enjoy the free ride. Normal diff is basically a tutorial and introduction to the game anyways.

[StarryEyes]

if you are level 40 and farming low level content, why enter matchmaking? Why not just run it in private so you don't ruin it for the people doing the content for the first time? They are more than capable. see what I did there? goes both ways. Only one makes a ♥♥♥♥ of a lot more sense then the other.