The First Descendant

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sillytubbie Jul 20, 2024 @ 10:16am
Can I build Bunny to be as strong as Ultimate Bunny?
Hi! If I spend the same (Or more) time and efforts on base Bunny, can I ever make her as strong as Ultimate Bunny? Or the stat differences of Ultimate Bunny is too much to ignore?

Same goes for other Descendants with Ultimate versions.
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mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Shyba:
Originally posted by N0P3:

U haven't seen the Glay ult one shot hm collossi built yet?`Needs a ult only mod for it to work
To be fair that build is going to be nerfed/unusable once they remove module swapping capabilities(which I assume means they just won't let you swap loadouts period in an intercept)

I mean you COULD still use demonic mod but you'd have to charge up power of life off adds then which means no safety net of killing/staggering it before it can fire a shot

Yeah being able to module swap while in a fight while keeping buffs I'm 99.9% sure is unintended.
EmperorVolo Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
Actually the answer is yes and no. It depends on what you are building it for. The only stat differences are Health, Shields, MP, and DEF. So realistically there's only a base difference not really a POWER difference if that makes sense.

It's not P2W at all.
EmperorVolo Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:
Originally posted by Shyba:
To be fair that build is going to be nerfed/unusable once they remove module swapping capabilities(which I assume means they just won't let you swap loadouts period in an intercept)

I mean you COULD still use demonic mod but you'd have to charge up power of life off adds then which means no safety net of killing/staggering it before it can fire a shot

Yeah being able to module swap while in a fight while keeping buffs I'm 99.9% sure is unintended.

Ya it's getting patched.
mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by V:
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:

Yeah being able to module swap while in a fight while keeping buffs I'm 99.9% sure is unintended.

Ya it's getting patched.

Needs to be for sure. IMO "infinite" anything , like ammo , needs to go away as well.
EmperorVolo Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Honestly the stat difference probably only matter in a tank build since the mods are multiplicative meaning the higher the base the higher the mod % increased. Like 400 percent of 800 is a lot more than 600. Then as you increase the % the lower number is going to be left behind pretty quick.
Skillshot Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by V:
Honestly the stat difference probably only matter in a tank build since the mods are multiplicative meaning the higher the base the higher the mod % increased. Like 400 percent of 800 is a lot more than 600. Then as you increase the % the lower number is going to be left behind pretty quick.

I am dying to see bunny tank.
EmperorVolo Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:
Originally posted by V:

Ya it's getting patched.

Needs to be for sure. IMO "infinite" anything , like ammo , needs to go away as well.

They confirmed it today let me see if I can find the blog post. They put this info in so many different places.
mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by V:
Honestly the stat difference probably only matter in a tank build since the mods are multiplicative meaning the higher the base the higher the mod % increased. Like 400 percent of 800 is a lot more than 600. Then as you increase the % the lower number is going to be left behind pretty quick.

Honestly it doesn't add up to much.

My ult and OG Ajax with the same mods on are only around 2k difference in def for example.
mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by V:
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:

Needs to be for sure. IMO "infinite" anything , like ammo , needs to go away as well.

They confirmed it today let me see if I can find the blog post. They put this info in so many different places.

Oh I believe you but a link to read atm would be nice lol.
EmperorVolo Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:
Originally posted by V:
Honestly the stat difference probably only matter in a tank build since the mods are multiplicative meaning the higher the base the higher the mod % increased. Like 400 percent of 800 is a lot more than 600. Then as you increase the % the lower number is going to be left behind pretty quick.

Honestly it doesn't add up to much.

My ult and OG Ajax with the same mods on are only around 2k difference in def for example.

Ya maybe I haven't done an Ajax yet so maybe I just know people are pushing 80-100K Health and Defense and in my mind it's probably a much higher difference at those levels.

However I can't say I have experience in this since this isn't my play style so I don't really know.

Also can't seem to find a link I could be wrong but I don't imagine it's intended regardless.
Last edited by EmperorVolo; Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:11pm
Skillshot Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by V:
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:

Honestly it doesn't add up to much.

My ult and OG Ajax with the same mods on are only around 2k difference in def for example.

Ya maybe I haven't done an Ajax yet so maybe I just know people are pushing 80-100K Health and Defense and in my mind it's probably a much higher difference at those levels.

However I can't say I have experience in this since this isn't my play style so I don't really know.

Also can't seem to find a link I could be wrong but I don't imagine it's intended regardless.

65k def is soft cap, just sayin
mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Skillshot:
Originally posted by V:

Ya maybe I haven't done an Ajax yet so maybe I just know people are pushing 80-100K Health and Defense and in my mind it's probably a much higher difference at those levels.

However I can't say I have experience in this since this isn't my play style so I don't really know.

Also can't seem to find a link I could be wrong but I don't imagine it's intended regardless.

65k def is soft cap, just sayin

You can benefit from 100k def but the diminishing returns are brutal.
Last edited by mykidsnamedme; Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:32pm
mykidsnamedme Jul 20, 2024 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by V:
Originally posted by mykidsnamedme:

Honestly it doesn't add up to much.

My ult and OG Ajax with the same mods on are only around 2k difference in def for example.

Ya maybe I haven't done an Ajax yet so maybe I just know people are pushing 80-100K Health and Defense and in my mind it's probably a much higher difference at those levels.

However I can't say I have experience in this since this isn't my play style so I don't really know.

Also can't seem to find a link I could be wrong but I don't imagine it's intended regardless.

You good. Thanks for looking and yes Ajax has 1 specific trans module that loves it :steamhappy:
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