I am fed up of how OP bunny is

[BardzBeast]

I play mostly freyna and lepic. their abilities take forever to cool down and they do high damage vs single target or small aoe for limited time.

Bunny has massive aoe, massive damage aura with ridiculously fast cool down and can run everywhere super quick.

Almost every single infiltration mission i'm just running to keep up and walking past the drops of dead mobs. then when in a room full of enemies i can't believe that its considered acceptable game design for all of them to be instantly dead because of 1 low cooldown bunny ability that takes 0 skill. This is made worse when there is an ult bunny with bigger radius and more damage.

they need to increase the cooldown, reduce the area of affect and/or reduce the damage. Something that has such a large radius, does so much damage, moves so fast, has such a short cooldown and takes 0 effort is insanely unbalanced. It also completely bypasses enemy shields, most boss immune mechanics and common enemy immune spots.

On albion defence as an example. I have level 100 guns. I'm shooting the enemies in the late stages and they take a second to kill some of the bigger guys. Meanwhile bunny just turns on their instakill aura and mops every enemy up in as much time as it takes for me to kill 1. Its ok for a class be to be good vs large mobs, but to be this crazy efficient for no effort when 90% of the game is spent killing smaller enemies for me is too much.

I see some discussion around this and yet I'm actually quite surprised how little discussion I see given how ridiculously OP bunny is compared to everything else. I understand she is very popular because of how powerful she is plus the skins, but I think she is actively harming the game in the long run, as it makes the game much less fun for everyone else not playing bunny.

[Marceline]

Private lobby exists

[Peter Pan]

I don't mind if Bunny has this niche aoe move that no other descendants have.

What I do mind is that she doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. Like, she is strong from beginning till end? She can farm this way in hard mode just like in normal mode?

So less about her being OP, more about balance issue. Why play other descendants if Bunny can do everything?

[Licher.Rus]

But Bunny is squishiest character in the game

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Peter Pan:

I don't mind if Bunny has this niche aoe move that no other descendants have.

What I do mind is that she doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. Like, she is strong from beginning till end? She can farm this way in hard mode just like in normal mode?

So less about her being OP, more about balance issue. Why play other descendants if Bunny can do everything?

becuase bunny is not good at killing bosses.
the first thing you want is a farming character, which is just bunny, no other choice on that level of her. it is a balance issue, yes.

but if you want to kill hard mode bosses efficiently, then you are gonna need another ultimate character, gley would be the best choice

[BigK]

I think the root of the problem is that higher level players are farming lower level dungeons.

[Riepah]

Originally posted by Peter Pan:

What I do mind is that she doesn't seem to have any weaknesses.

She dies easily and the fact that she loses her resource if she stops moving is detrimental, too.
In order to deal any kind of skill damage, she has to get relatively close to her targets - that works well when they are just spawning in and she can kill them before they shoot, but with how squishy she is, fighting an existing group or monsters that survive long enough after spawn to shoot can quickly end badly.
Another thing is, when she spawns, she spawns without her special resource - she's unable to use any skills except sprint. Bunny feels quite helpless after a respawn.

[bigjimbo84]

Private or play with a friend group. Bunny is squishy AF that's the balance.

[MissReapZz]

It is recommended to avoid harboring animosity towards Bunny and redirect that energy towards more constructive endeavors like procreation. The community would greatly benefit from a higher quantity of small Ajax, Viessa, Sharen, Gley, Blair and other similar entities. Increased participation will enhance the overall gaming experience.

Warm regards,
A Bunny Main🐰

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Riepah:

Originally posted by Peter Pan:

What I do mind is that she doesn't seem to have any weaknesses.

She dies easily and the fact that she loses her resource if she stops moving is detrimental, too.
In order to deal any kind of skill damage, she has to get relatively close to her targets - that works well when they are just spawning in and she can kill them before they shoot, but with how squishy she is, fighting an existing group or monsters that survive long enough after spawn to shoot can quickly end badly.
Another thing is, when she spawns, she spawns without her special resource - she's unable to use any skills except sprint. Bunny feels quite helpless after a respawn.

uhh...that may apply in normal mode or when you dont have a build going.. bunny aoe or range with red bossing mod is insanely huge once you invested some crystallization catalysts into her.
if you have max hp on your external components she is not squishy at all anymore either..

[Boink]

Hmm you can get 100% cycle cooldowns with your poison dots. I don't know anything about Leptic.

VALBY is stronger than Bunny on almost every farm outside pre-DESIGNED for void shards and the one with the underground passage.

Bunny is there for a starter grinding descendant to make it easier for new players. A lot of shard farming involves her.

Bunny fails in most Hard Intercepts except Obstructer. Valby can do much better as a Weapon CRIT specialist and destroys adds with her skill sets. This includes a built-in CC.

[Actionhanz]

bunny is not OP, she is just ( like every other descendant ) good in the job she is supposed to do and that is AOE low content fast and efficient. I personally only use her if i need to farm some barrier deactivation, low dungeons or whatever. But why should i use her to clear a room while running when i can just point my thunder cage in the direction and do at range what bunny can do in close range?

Against bosses i use my main lepic, in 12 hours ultimate lepic and pump 15 to 25 million BURST from the very first second, then do firearm dmg with grenades in between. Meanwhile bunny sucks in that situation.

The only reason so many people complain is that bunny is good in the current meta of the game which is FRESH RELEASE. Majority of people are still in low content, mobs have low hp, dungeon are braindead easy, a lot of farming still happens mostly in the normal open world and bunny i just perfect for that meta, in a couple of month no one will care about her anymore.

[Manxome]

don't care about how OP she is.. but that F ing laugh has got to go...

[BardzBeast]

Originally posted by Actionhanz:

bunny is not OP, she is just ( like every other descendant ) good in the job she is supposed to do and that is AOE low content fast and efficient. I personally only use her if i need to farm some barrier deactivation, low dungeons or whatever. But why should i use her to clear a room while running when i can just point my thunder cage in the direction and do at range what bunny can do in close range?

On that note, Thunder cage is also op for similar reasons. it just mops up enemies at an insane rate that no other gun can compete with.

[Tenz]

Here you go, just stop trying to fight bunny turn on this youtube and enjoy the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tXh_MfrMe0

[BardzBeast]

Originally posted by Boink:

VALBY is stronger than Bunny on almost every farm outside pre-DESIGNED for void shards and the one with the underground passage.

Bunny is there for a starter grinding descendant to make it easier for new players. A lot of shard farming involves her.

Bunny fails in most Hard Intercepts except Obstructer. Valby can do much better as a Weapon CRIT specialist and destroys adds with her skill sets. This includes a built-in CC.

I'm not very familiar with the terminology? Farming I guess you mean grinding for parts or materials? Valby seemed ok but the aoe is much smaller and has less speed and from what I've seen so far it does less damage over time than bunny's ability does.

I think Bunny is quite effective at bosses which are weak to electric. her energy beam skill does lots of damage. Being squishy isnt really that big of a deal when you have upgraded HP and defence and learn how to dodge etc. I very rarely see Bunny's go down unless they are underlevelled or new players.