This game is Age rated 12+ In the UK...

[Chrismassy]

Why? The age rating in america is apparently 17+
So i think one side of this must be wrong here...

I am genuinely curious as to why the age rating is so different between our two countries and that the reasons for both age ratings clash with their respective reason.

For example, ESRB 17+ permits Intense blood/violence/gore, sexual content and/or strong language while PEGI 12+ permits slight violence towards fantasy characters or non realistic violence to humans as well as sexual innuendos/posturing and mild bad language.

[ broderbr]

Publicado originalmente por 🎄Chrismassy🎄:

Publicado originalmente por  broderbr:

Wow, well if you really are stalk-ing my profile and looked at my posts then you should have realized that I simply find all this crybaby and non sense complaining from your generation ridiculous and boring. You guys cry all the time and for everything. These is justa a sci-fi fantasy game, nobody is dying really, u know? Is just a fake future fiction game, all right? Kids today see much worse things and play much worse games. And that is the parents' responsibility to manage. So if it doesn't work for you or your child, just don't play or don't let him play. And stop pointing fingers at people and on gaming forums because you don't even know them or what they are like. BTW I don't even mind the nonsense of farming rewards on Steam. Im just a mr. nobody guy and I just play games for fun... unlike you lol

BYYYYYYE, and try to HAVE SOME FUN!!!!

you dont need to go onto someones profile to see their posts lmao

YEP, and thats the level of response u can expect from some genius "gamer" like you, lol
byyyyyyye ;) o/

[Rogue]

Publicado originalmente por snowyyツ:

Usually americans are easily shocked by the human body... where in europe nudity is pretty normal and not something u get shocked by.

Like when americans go to a swimming hall and see naked ppl bathing before going in... where americans wud be covered up in full medieval armor.

Nope, it's legal to walk around naked in some areas. Even in plain view of children.

As I said to the OP, ask the government or the institution implementing the rating system. Customers here, know nothing as it's not their job or even truly cared about the details.

[Chrismassy]

Publicado originalmente por  broderbr:

Publicado originalmente por 🎄Chrismassy🎄:

you dont need to go onto someones profile to see their posts lmao

YEP, and thats the level of response u can expect from some genius "gamer" like you, lol
byyyyyyye ;) o/

k lol

[Boss]

Because the UK and US value different things. The US is notorious for being scared of sexual themes. It's restricted based on that. Just look at the Hot Coffee fiasco.

Versus the UK where you have to jump through hoops to even include real names for medicines and they get spooked by extreme violence games and outright ban them.

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Nope, it's legal to walk around naked in some areas. Even in plain view of children.

Go ahead and try that. You're absolutely incorrect. "Some areas" meaning nude beaches? Sure. But again, go ahead and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try this in most of the 50 States. Go on. I dare you.

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Y'know what? I'm just going to stop this disinformation right here.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/criminal-laws/indecent-exposure-laws-by-state.html

[Rogue]

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Nope, it's legal to walk around naked in some areas. Even in plain view of children.

Go ahead and try that. You're absolutely incorrect. "Some areas" meaning nude beaches? Sure. But again, go ahead and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try this in most of the 50 States. Go on. I dare you.

Pride parades for example. lol. Don't believe me? google it. World is stranger than fiction at times. Oh, the police says it's okay too.

There are many examples. Just google them. Public nudity's legal for some states.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Go ahead and try that. You're absolutely incorrect. "Some areas" meaning nude beaches? Sure. But again, go ahead and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ try this in most of the 50 States. Go on. I dare you.

Pride parades for example. lol. Don't believe me? google it. World is stranger than fiction at times.

A parade might get an exempt or cops are too scared to call them out on it.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/criminal-laws/indecent-exposure-laws-by-state.html

A pride parade does not make the entire 50 States, nor is it even remotely appropriate for bringing up during a conversation about ratings between the UK and US.

Also, a reminder: Willful Indecent Exposure is a felony in most States. Do NOT do this because some rando online is saying it's okay, or tiktok encouraged it. Some protesters can get away with it, but all it takes is one prosecutor to not choose to dismiss the charges for your entire life to be ruined.

[Rogue]

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Pride parades for example. lol. Don't believe me? google it. World is stranger than fiction at times.

A parade might get an exempt or cops are too scared to call them out on it.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/criminal-laws/indecent-exposure-laws-by-state.html

A pride parade does not make the entire 50 States, nor is it even remotely appropriate for bringing up during a conversation about ratings between the UK and US.

Also, a reminder: Willful Indecent Exposure is a felony in most States. Do NOT do this because some rando online is saying it's okay, or tiktok encouraged it. Some protesters can get away with it, but all it takes is one prosecutor to not choose to dismiss the charges for your entire life to be ruined.

That's not the crux of the question. Nudity is legal, exposure is not for some states even when nudity is allowed. "Most" states is not "All" states.

My statement is "Nope, it's legal to walk around naked in some areas. Even in plain view of children." holds true.

[Captain Worthy]

PEGI uses very flawed, possibly corrupted judgement.

Marvel Snap is rated PEGI 7 despite having gambling elements where real money can be involved.

PEGI sees only the types of activities done at casinos and such as gambling mechanics, and allows it in games for kids as long as it's not a literal roulette, black jack table, slot machine etc.

That is why even a game like Genshin Impact is rated just PEGI 12.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

A parade might get an exempt or cops are too scared to call them out on it.

https://www.findlaw.com/state/criminal-laws/indecent-exposure-laws-by-state.html

A pride parade does not make the entire 50 States, nor is it even remotely appropriate for bringing up during a conversation about ratings between the UK and US.

Also, a reminder: Willful Indecent Exposure is a felony in most States. Do NOT do this because some rando online is saying it's okay, or tiktok encouraged it. Some protesters can get away with it, but all it takes is one prosecutor to not choose to dismiss the charges for your entire life to be ruined.

That's not the crux of the question. Nudity is legal, exposure is not for some states even when nudity is allowed. "Most" states is not "All" states.

All States. Not most. All states. Every State. Name a State.

Every single Indecent Exposure law mentions "if there's potential for being offended". More over, in the states where Indecent Exposure is classified specifically as a felony, they MIGHT include a requirement for "for the purposes of sexual arousal". In every State that does that (a small number) they have "public decency" laws which are misdemeanors. So it's STILL illegal to do. More over, it's not a misdemeanor if done to someone that is 16 or younger.

We're talking about the differences in the US versus UK in ratings on video games. Even by your flawed logic, if "Most" States (with the most population to boot) have public indecency laws, then obviously the ESRB (and television) would follow the MOST agreed upon opinion.

This isn't new. This isn't shocking. You're simply outright lying. But go on. Tell me of the State that doesn't have these laws on the books, and where you can "expose" yourself to children and be fine. Go ahead.

[MShields]

Because Jimmy Savile.

[Rogue]

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

That's not the crux of the question. Nudity is legal, exposure is not for some states even when nudity is allowed. "Most" states is not "All" states.

All States. Not most. All states. Every State. Name a State.

Every single Indecent Exposure law mentions "if there's potential for being offended". More over, in the states where Indecent Exposure is classified specifically as a felony, they MIGHT include a requirement for "for the purposes of sexual arousal". In every State that does that (a small number) they have "public decency" laws which are misdemeanors. So it's STILL illegal to do. More over, it's not a misdemeanor if done to someone that is 16 or younger.

We're talking about the differences in the US versus UK in ratings on video games. Even by your flawed logic, if "Most" States (with the most population to boot) have public indecency laws, then obviously the ESRB (and television) would follow the MOST agreed upon opinion.

This isn't new. This isn't shocking. You're simply outright lying. But go on. Tell me of the State that doesn't have these laws on the books, and where you can "expose" yourself to children and be fine. Go ahead.

What's the hell is wrong with you. Nudism is not deliberate exposure.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

What's the hell is wrong with you. Nudism is not deliberate exposure.

While nude colonies exist, nudism is in fact exposure of one's body. You're welcome to be a nudist in your own home, but the second you walk into a public space, you're going to have cops called on you. And again, you suggested that you could do this around children.

We're talking about the UK and US, again, in terms of their broadcast/video game ratings. The US has traditionally, compared to other countries, had far more stringent laws around exposure of the human body. This isn't a controversial take.

I pointed that out. You, instead, started talking about "Most states" not being "all states". And now that I'm calling you out on that, you're getting... what? Indignant? Upset? And yet still not giving me a Single State where its legal to do so?

Look man. You're giving the incorrect impression to people that might not know better. Indecent Exposure is a felony in most States. A felony is a permanent record. Permanent. Permanent. And it is nearly ALWAYS a felony when done around kids.

Do NOT make statements like yours without a single care as to who might read it. You could have said, "Exposure is alright in certain areas, certain events, colonies, or even your car."

...Yes, there's some flexibility about being naked in your own car. It's uh. Weird, and hasn't been properly taken to court...

But that's not what you said.

[aseinsha]

American here, US is really stupid with even "suggestive themes" its the most christian country in the world. Just listen to either campaign speeches 90% praising Jesus and praising god instead of talking about actual subjects that should matter in an election.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por aseinsha:

American here, US is really stupid with even "suggestive themes" its the most christian country in the world. Just listen to either campaign speeches 90% praising Jesus and praising god instead of talking about actual subjects that should matter in an election.

Amen to that brotha.

[TemplarGFX]

two different agencies with different criteria resulting in different ratings. thats all