Afterglow Sword or Piercing Light ?

[ViNcEnT 12138]

one with higher crit and special buff to boss , another one has higher base damage and weakpoint and penetration. i already max out the Afterglow Sword, only want to know is it still worth it to max out the Piercing light.

[Shyba]

Afterglow better for general use, piercing light for 1shot gimmicks due to MUCH higher base atk

[jandraelune]

Afterglow Sword, has higher crit rate, crit dmg and weakpoint dmg. Unique ability is for every hit, it further increases crit rate and crit dmg.

[p00se2]

if i just wanna get a boss killer +something for range in addition to my thunderclap

i should go for the piercing light yes?

[Trev]

Publicado originalmente por jandraelune:

Afterglow Sword, has higher crit rate, crit dmg and weakpoint dmg. Unique ability is for every hit, it further increases crit rate and crit dmg.

Piercing light has higher weakpoint dmg at 2x vs Afterglow's 1.8x. I'm not arguing which is better, just making a correciton.

[Rogue]

Piercing light of course. Way higher base Firearm ATK and multipliers. The fastest boss kill is with this, 1 second , 1 shot 1 kill.

[Zep]

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Piercing light of course. Way higher base Firearm ATK and multipliers. The fastest boss kill is with this, 1 second , 1 shot 1 kill.

Which they unfortunately they instantly nerfed cause it only worked with mod swapping which they no longer allow. Was a bit odd given that they opted to nerf this given how generally all end game builds are "overpowered". Yet they decided to nerf such a niche gley sniper build that only worked for one purpose which was insane boss insta damage.

I guess killing a boss in 1-10 seconds is imba but killing it in 15-30 seconds is not (the difference being those 15-30second build work on all content not just bosses)? /shrug

[𝕂𝕒𝕨𝕒𝕚𝕚𝔻]

I'm not sure if that video correct, but maybe it's helps
https://youtu.be/pHIcZ5E6CtM?si=Y2kCcZK5RE4nJaXn

[Shyba]

Publicado originalmente por Zep:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Piercing light of course. Way higher base Firearm ATK and multipliers. The fastest boss kill is with this, 1 second , 1 shot 1 kill.

Which they unfortunately they instantly nerfed cause it only worked with mod swapping which they no longer allow. Was a bit odd given that they opted to nerf this given how generally all end game builds are "overpowered". Yet they decided to nerf such a niche gley sniper build that only worked for one purpose which was insane boss insta damage.

I guess killing a boss in 1-10 seconds is imba but killing it in 15-30 seconds is not (the difference being those 15-30second build work on all content not just bosses)? /shrug

they "nerfed" it because they don't want people mod swapping nothing to do with it's speed/damage.

when you allow modswapping type "builds" it becomes an absolute NIGHTMARE to balance things because now you have to compensate for nonsense like that or like... idk Bionic Fuel Bunny precharging in the startup timer into Tightrope'd Electric Condense idk just thinking of some silly build that "might" benefit from a mod swap lol.. and then eventually communities of online games tend to focus on minmax and now if you DONT modswap you aren't worth the time etc.

it's a slippery slope of madness that never should exist in games with loadouts that's all I can't really describe/explain it better =/

[tQ ReCrack]

Publicado originalmente por Shyba:

they "nerfed" it because they don't want people mod swapping nothing to do with it's speed/damage.

when you allow modswapping type "builds" it becomes an absolute NIGHTMARE to balance things because now you have to compensate for nonsense like that or like... idk Bionic Fuel Bunny precharging in the startup timer into Tightrope'd Electric Condense idk just thinking of some silly build that "might" benefit from a mod swap lol.. and then eventually communities of online games tend to focus on minmax and now if you DONT modswap you aren't worth the time etc.

it's a slippery slope of madness that never should exist in games with loadouts that's all I can't really describe/explain it better =/

Agreed. Modswapping allows people to "use" two transcendent mods (and mods of similar groups like two cooldown mods, etc.) in tandem which defeats the whole purpose of locking it behind 1 use per build.

The devs seem fine with quick clears and OP builds, as long as it is within the rules set in place. In this case, 1 mod of each group/category per build.

[Addict]

Publicado originalmente por jandraelune:

Afterglow Sword, has higher crit rate, crit dmg and weakpoint dmg. Unique ability is for every hit, it further increases crit rate and crit dmg.

Afterglow has a 1.8 weak point multiplier, PL has a 2.0

[Taiji]

Publicado originalmente por Zep:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Piercing light of course. Way higher base Firearm ATK and multipliers. The fastest boss kill is with this, 1 second , 1 shot 1 kill.

Which they unfortunately they instantly nerfed cause it only worked with mod swapping which they no longer allow. Was a bit odd given that they opted to nerf this given how generally all end game builds are "overpowered". Yet they decided to nerf such a niche gley sniper build that only worked for one purpose which was insane boss insta damage.

I guess killing a boss in 1-10 seconds is imba but killing it in 15-30 seconds is not (the difference being those 15-30second build work on all content not just bosses)? /shrug

How anyone can fail to see an exploit like this, as an exploit, is beyond me.

[Dyspeptic Icarus]

Publicado originalmente por Taiji:

Publicado originalmente por Zep:

Which they unfortunately they instantly nerfed cause it only worked with mod swapping which they no longer allow. Was a bit odd given that they opted to nerf this given how generally all end game builds are "overpowered". Yet they decided to nerf such a niche gley sniper build that only worked for one purpose which was insane boss insta damage.

I guess killing a boss in 1-10 seconds is imba but killing it in 15-30 seconds is not (the difference being those 15-30second build work on all content not just bosses)? /shrug

How anyone can fail to see an exploit like this, as an exploit, is beyond me.

People consider game mechanics, mechanics until the devs pull up and say its an exploit.

After that, they cry about it. Sometimes the devs then cater to them, and make it a mechanic.

[Midnight]

Max the Piercing Light if you want to use a oneshot gimmick build with Gley/Sharen.

Otherwise just keep it at base purely for its ability to strip boss buffs.

There's are better uses of mats than maxing both of the sniper rifles TBH.

[sergeantawesome]

Publicado originalmente por Zep:

Publicado originalmente por Rogue:

Piercing light of course. Way higher base Firearm ATK and multipliers. The fastest boss kill is with this, 1 second , 1 shot 1 kill.

Which they unfortunately they instantly nerfed cause it only worked with mod swapping which they no longer allow. Was a bit odd given that they opted to nerf this given how generally all end game builds are "overpowered". Yet they decided to nerf such a niche gley sniper build that only worked for one purpose which was insane boss insta damage.

I guess killing a boss in 1-10 seconds is imba but killing it in 15-30 seconds is not (the difference being those 15-30second build work on all content not just bosses)? /shrug

Does not matter, apparently. Demonic Modification for this build apparently is not attainable anymore. At least, not according to the game when you go into access inventory and search where to find it.