The First Descendant

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Saya Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:42am
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Bunny kill the enjoyment
Literally making other characters useless. Characters like Viessa or Valby that are really good becomes totally pointless for farming because Bunny is literally killing everything instantly in an insane range with nonsensical vertical and horizontal range.
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Xenaroth Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:10am 
People saying that Bunny isn't a problem are just coping and never tried the character themselves.
I have a Viessa and Bunny fully maxed and outside of colossus I can't even have fun with my Viessa either because I'm like "I'm just losing my time I'll switch to Bunny". I literally hit for millions with her V skill just running around while never running out of mana and people can't even touch a mob because I'm one shotting everything. Heck I don't even need to go online anymore because people slow me down rather than helping me.

She indeed is overtuned to the point other characters can't have fun and I think that's the problem. People speaking about Valby or other characters like they can hit mobs are delusional. I just see them afk because they just can't do anything at all. Is that the definition of fun ? Being carried without touching any monsters just because it's grindy ? When fun characters like Viessa exist ? Hell no.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Sinzqt/screenshot/2515906945689068055/
For people that'll say it's false and I'm still stuck in normal mode and lying. :steamthumbsup:
76561197988918266 Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Zyppeler:
Originally posted by BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:
So your attempt at retort is to pretend there is no content beyond general farming and there is no way anyone can group up with friends in private?

I main gley, eat your heart out. Once you get to farming colossi for stuff, you'll quickly find out most bunny suck(the hordeclear ability is very situational; for example obstructor balls).

What else is there except farming? Void Battles that you do after you did farm the amosphere? Even in Void Battles Bunny is more usefull than for example a Ajax (read my comment on page 1).

Stop pretending that we, people that critizie Bunny, haven't played the hardest content in this game just because you have no arguments against ours.

Unlike you I think long term about the healthiness of this game and making 1 class so crazy overtuned that it kills the enjoyment of other people because they do nothing but running behind her anymore, get bombet with the same and same voice lines every time gets incredible annoying pretty fast and on top of that she even causes screen shaking for other players that can't be diasbled unlike voice lines.
I'm not reading your comment on page 1 because that's not relevant.
Funny you single out Ajax but neglected to mention the other 2 beginner choices.
Even Ajax is plenty useful at least for staying alive(being less of a burden).

You have no argument, you are just being educated here.

Unlike you I actually think long term about the health of this game and bunny/thundercage being available early/easily and being effective is the best decision devs made. Because in this way the game gives you the tools to level bad weapons(bunny) and meh characters(thundercage). Now you want that tool removed/nerfed which will be overall a massive loss to the general playerbase.

To nail your coffin: you can turn off battle voice in the options...
Last edited by 76561197988918266; Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:13am
Dr. Peppermill Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Saya:
Literally making other characters useless. Characters like Viessa or Valby that are really good becomes totally pointless for farming because Bunny is literally killing everything instantly in an insane range with nonsensical vertical and horizontal range.
Bunny is too annoying for my taste, I prefer Valby for similar tasks.
feline Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:13am 
you know right. you can solo stage by select private :o and mob will adjust amount and lvl same ask you . cheer.
Artemis Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by xXSetsu:
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
On the other hand.. they are practically useless in hard mode dungeons and colossus fights.

They also powerlvl me at the usual farm spots. I dont even stay there without bunnys. Viessa and Valby are ten thousand times better when it comes to actual dmg.

I mean I get it.. bunnys can get tedious depending what you want to do. I still appreciate them farming me millions of gold, kuiper and exp.

Bunny is not just god tier in farming but also in clearing hard mode dungeons and interception both group and solo.

Her 3 deals a bout the same damage as one more additional player..... if built decently she is absolutely broken.

Absolutely true, my bunny comfortably does 220-250% HM dungeons. Lol to anyone thinking she is weak, that's just wilfully ignorant.
76561197988918266 Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by Artemis:
Originally posted by xXSetsu:

Bunny is not just god tier in farming but also in clearing hard mode dungeons and interception both group and solo.

Her 3 deals a bout the same damage as one more additional player..... if built decently she is absolutely broken.

Absolutely true, my bunny comfortably does 220-250% HM dungeons. Lol to anyone thinking she is weak, that's just wilfully ignorant.
HM isn't really hard. Bunny does clear most of it the fastest I'll give you that, but there's no real difficulty in getting guaranteed 2 relics. Except maybe if you took the disable sprint modifier lol.
Last edited by 76561197988918266; Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:16am
TyresTyco Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by xXSetsu:
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
On the other hand.. they are practically useless in hard mode dungeons and colossus fights.

They also powerlvl me at the usual farm spots. I dont even stay there without bunnys. Viessa and Valby are ten thousand times better when it comes to actual dmg.

I mean I get it.. bunnys can get tedious depending what you want to do. I still appreciate them farming me millions of gold, kuiper and exp.

Bunny is not just god tier in farming but also in clearing hard mode dungeons and interception both group and solo.

Her 3 deals a bout the same damage as one more additional player..... if built decently she is absolutely broken.

Clearing the dungeon until the boss. Then she is the first lying on the ground yelling for help.

She is only the aoe clearer. Thats it. You might be better than the average bunny player but most bunnys do jack:DSTpoop: against all bosses. Nobody can convince me otherwise. I see it every 10 minutes.
Last edited by TyresTyco; Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:18am
Artemis Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Xenaroth:
People saying that Bunny isn't a problem are just coping and never tried the character themselves.
I have a Viessa and Bunny fully maxed and outside of colossus I can't even have fun with my Viessa either because I'm like "I'm just losing my time I'll switch to Bunny". I literally hit for millions with her V skill just running around while never running out of mana and people can't even touch a mob because I'm one shotting everything. Heck I don't even need to go online anymore because people slow me down rather than helping me.

She indeed is overtuned to the point other characters can't have fun and I think that's the problem. People speaking about Valby or other characters like they can hit mobs are delusional. I just see them afk because they just can't do anything at all. Is that the definition of fun ? Being carried without touching any monsters just because it's grindy ? When fun characters like Viessa exist ? Hell no.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Sinzqt/screenshot/2515906945689068055/
For people that'll say it's false and I'm still stuck in normal mode and lying. :steamthumbsup:

What's your actual point? you linked a SS of nearly maxxed Bunny and complaining that she does her job well? LOL. As for Valby and Viessa, well, infinite blizzard Viessa is ridiculously strong, Valby is a monster her basic ability gives her so much crit it's obscene, and for a certain farm atm, she is literally the only descendant who can do it.

The argument is ridiculous anyway, like the majority of people have said, she fits her roll which is farming. (she can do other stuff naturally) but their are better descendants for colossi as an example.
Artemis Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
Originally posted by xXSetsu:

Bunny is not just god tier in farming but also in clearing hard mode dungeons and interception both group and solo.

Her 3 deals a bout the same damage as one more additional player..... if built decently she is absolutely broken.

Clearing the dungeon until the boss. Then she is the first lying on the ground yelling for help.

She is only the aoe clearer. Thats it. You might be better than the average bunny player but most bunnys do jack:DSTpoop: against all bosses. Nobody can convince me otherwise. I see it every 10 minutes.

If nobody can convince you why are you even here lol
PotatoScav Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Saya:
Literally making other characters useless. Characters like Viessa or Valby that are really good becomes totally pointless for farming because Bunny is literally killing everything instantly in an insane range with nonsensical vertical and horizontal range.
I think you can do solo
TyresTyco Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Artemis:
Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Clearing the dungeon until the boss. Then she is the first lying on the ground yelling for help.

She is only the aoe clearer. Thats it. You might be better than the average bunny player but most bunnys do jack:DSTpoop: against all bosses. Nobody can convince me otherwise. I see it every 10 minutes.

If nobody can convince you why are you even here lol

To share my actual experience from the game? Why are you here ? To yapp about bunny ? Go ahead.
nataS Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:27am 
Git G00d: steambored:
Xenaroth Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Artemis:
Originally posted by Xenaroth:
People saying that Bunny isn't a problem are just coping and never tried the character themselves.
I have a Viessa and Bunny fully maxed and outside of colossus I can't even have fun with my Viessa either because I'm like "I'm just losing my time I'll switch to Bunny". I literally hit for millions with her V skill just running around while never running out of mana and people can't even touch a mob because I'm one shotting everything. Heck I don't even need to go online anymore because people slow me down rather than helping me.

She indeed is overtuned to the point other characters can't have fun and I think that's the problem. People speaking about Valby or other characters like they can hit mobs are delusional. I just see them afk because they just can't do anything at all. Is that the definition of fun ? Being carried without touching any monsters just because it's grindy ? When fun characters like Viessa exist ? Hell no.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Sinzqt/screenshot/2515906945689068055/
For people that'll say it's false and I'm still stuck in normal mode and lying. :steamthumbsup:

What's your actual point? you linked a SS of nearly maxxed Bunny and complaining that she does her job well? LOL. As for Valby and Viessa, well, infinite blizzard Viessa is ridiculously strong, Valby is a monster her basic ability gives her so much crit it's obscene, and for a certain farm atm, she is literally the only descendant who can do it.

The argument is ridiculous anyway, like the majority of people have said, she fits her roll which is farming. (she can do other stuff naturally) but their are better descendants for colossi as an example.
Even with 1/4 of my build I was already one shotting pretty much everything of the most popular farming missions because it doesn't need to be maxed to hit for 200k+.

And yes Viessa infinite blizzard is strong but it can't clear a room in a blink of an eye because of the range and Bunny moves nearly twice as fast as Viessa. When the two are in the same party outside of colossi the Viessa can't hit anything before everything is already dead and that's why I think it's a problem.
~Lazy_Eggs~ Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Xenaroth:
People saying that Bunny isn't a problem are just coping and never tried the character themselves.
I have a Viessa and Bunny fully maxed and outside of colossus I can't even have fun with my Viessa either because I'm like "I'm just losing my time I'll switch to Bunny". I literally hit for millions with her V skill just running around while never running out of mana and people can't even touch a mob because I'm one shotting everything. Heck I don't even need to go online anymore because people slow me down rather than helping me.

She indeed is overtuned to the point other characters can't have fun and I think that's the problem. People speaking about Valby or other characters like they can hit mobs are delusional. I just see them afk because they just can't do anything at all. Is that the definition of fun ? Being carried without touching any monsters just because it's grindy ? When fun characters like Viessa exist ? Hell no.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Sinzqt/screenshot/2515906945689068055/
For people that'll say it's false and I'm still stuck in normal mode and lying. :steamthumbsup:
I want a screenshot of your millions and viessa build.

Linking a full bunny build doesn't mean you're right ... It means you fully invested and made it op.

You can do that with any descendant or weapon.

If what you are complaining about is the AREA OF EFFECT (AOE)

then say that you want to kill each enemy individually and petition to have all AOE removed from the game so you can enjoy killing trash enemies one at a time
Saya Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
They should fix the vertical range of her 3rd skill for it to correspond to it's animation even if it implies being a nerf. It's ridiculous she can kill enemies that are 3 floors under her or on structures while just running around.
Last edited by Saya; Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:17pm
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