High levels in Low level missions

[Smokey]

I just started this game. And all im seeing is level 40's in the beginner "dungeons" rushing ahead and insta killing everything. This is supposed to be fun how.. ? I dont know why these high levels are here,and if its due to easy mats farming then its a massive flaw in their game design. And telling me to go private,no,thats not why i play an Online game. Even the bosses get insta shot,this is completely ruining the beginner experience.

[Zefar]

Originally posted by Term:

It is a poor and lazy design wich ruins all the fun.

Making use of all areas no matter what level you are is a GOOD design.

The main reason most MMORPG fails is because they think that making a couple of "End game dungeons" that you're supposed to grind forever. That will burn people out far quicker than anything else.

People always be about "What about the endgame grind?" well the end game grind is to get all of the materials from bosses from all bosses.
Warframe is doing this as well and it's been successful for over 10 years.

They could try and make it so that you're teamed up with low levels the first time around or if you only want people around your level. But this is not bad design.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Sylastin:

Its NOT a flaw in their game design, this game is not for you, thats all.

It actually is a flaw. If you played within the first week, you got the true experience of the game's matchmaking. Now? You get the warframe experience, where a bunny zips infront of your with a emission as wide as every room she steps in and finishes the spots in like 20 seconds flat.

We got to play the missions the way they were intended, dying to specific bosses and having to duck and and roll behind cover/guess boss attacks. This is being deprived from lower level people because people farming, aren't just doing so privately.

I do public farming myself and generally wait to see how strong people are in the group. If it's a farming group, we blitz it, if it isn't, I watch and help when needed. People losing first experiences isn't a good thing to promote for game longevity you know. Like the pyromaniac. People don't get to experience the massive death streak a ton of you forum users had (Literally archived.) because some yahoo with a thundercage that watched a youtube video saws it in half now lol.

[Nooby McNoobnoob]

i dont mind, if you want challenge doesnt this game allow private with teams as an option?

[Zeo]

I had to try the first boss a handful of times, because when my game finished loading the boss already was dead and I got no reward of it.

Honest question, but if those players are strong enough why they are not running in solo mode? It's a thing that only drop in co-op mode?

[Moga CMDR]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Honest question, but if those players are strong enough why they are not running in solo mode?

Because we do what we want. Like you should. You can play solo if you want. I play solo when I want. I play public when I want.

We aren't there to ruin anyone's fun. We don't know you, or who is in the random groups. We don't waste time assuming anything. We are just playing.

I would not overthink things. I would not take them personal. I would go private if you don't want to play with randoms.

Personally, I find it fun to grind in public to see other characters and players. I've found a lot of like-minded folk grinding away with no complaints. But I understand not everyone is going to be happy at all times.

Just go solo, it is your option.

[Tensu23]

Originally posted by Smokey:

I just started this game. And all im seeing is level 40's in the beginner "dungeons" rushing ahead and insta killing everything. This is supposed to be fun how.. ? I dont know why these high levels are here,and if its due to easy mats farming then its a massive flaw in their game design. And telling me to go private,no,thats not why i play an Online game. Even the bosses get insta shot,this is completely ruining the beginner experience.

So you know even with a full party of low lvls the stuff all dies more or less instantly. The bosses might take a min to kill but they are more or less just bullet sponges. So if your not into the type of games that are speedy mow down hordes with abilities and things this might not be for you.

Even the end game collosus fights are not like a MMO raid fight where you need a properly set up group that has to do complex mechanics. its more or less just zug zug the big HP bar with like 3 of the fights having a random thing you need to do but its nothing complex.

Also the reason you see high lvl players is simply cause they are most likely farming low end things. Some people join public matches to more or less help other people even if they can do it themselves in 30 seconds while some missions are forced group content so they have no choice but to get tossed in.,

[Tensu23]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Sylastin:

Its NOT a flaw in their game design, this game is not for you, thats all.

It actually is a flaw. If you played within the first week, you got the true experience of the game's matchmaking. Now? You get the warframe experience, where a bunny zips infront of your with a emission as wide as every room she steps in and finishes the spots in like 20 seconds flat.

We got to play the missions the way they were intended, dying to specific bosses and having to duck and and roll behind cover/guess boss attacks. This is being deprived from lower level people because people farming, aren't just doing so privately.

I do public farming myself and generally wait to see how strong people are in the group. If it's a farming group, we blitz it, if it isn't, I watch and help when needed. People losing first experiences isn't a good thing to promote for game longevity you know. Like the pyromaniac. People don't get to experience the massive death streak a ton of you forum users had (Literally archived.) because some yahoo with a thundercage that watched a youtube video saws it in half now lol.

what game were you playing on week one? Cause that was the experience even then. The only difference now is the bosses die quicker at the end of the missions and I am not complaining much about that since its not like they are very interesting and engaging fights.

[TemplarGFX]

It is an incredibly bad design choice. New players should be grouped together in their own instance with people whos accounts are at a similar level until they reach about half way into the campaign.

The OP should not have to do anything other than play the game to experience the story as I did on release with others

to the OP. The developers made the stupid decision of placing end-game mats as farmable things in low level areas. Some are only available in low level areas!

[Xsile]

Originally posted by NocheLuz:

You'll appreciate them after you play some more. And you'll ask them to help you with the mission.

Exactly what I was thinking. Be happy you are getting the carry and loot for doing little to nothing. Because this honeymoon does not last long.

[Megalomaniakaal]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Its a flaw in their game design where high levels feel the need to rather do low level missions because its easier to farm mats,thus ruining the beginning experience for low levels.

No, no. It's not a matter of high levels "feeling the need to rather do low level missions because its easier to farm mats" it's because the specific items don't drop from anywhere else.

There is Hard Mode, but that is only available to those who have clear the whole game world and that's not most "high levels". Someone having a character they've just maxed to 40 for the first time still has a long way to go.

[Licher.Rus]

Why some specific people are constantly finding troubles (mostly imagined, artificial and laughtable), start fighting with everyone around about them and demanding respect to their hurt (not) feelings, because of that "insane" trouble?

[JamesFatio]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Originally posted by Jeris:

This game isn't for you. Specific items drop from specific missions. So, there will always be people going back to try to get those drops. Also character level doesnt really indicate anything. You can get to 40 in a few hours (or less) Its more about weapon level and modules

This game is for me,but as I explained high levels in the starting dungeons are ruining the beginner experience as everything is being one shot including bosses. That is the issue,im not saying anything about the game itself. But about the People in those beginner missions. Aint hard to understand though.

Its a flaw in their game design where high levels feel the need to rather do low level missions because its easier to farm mats,thus ruining the beginning experience for low levels.

Are you stupid, have you not read any of the other comments. We have to do those missions, let me say it again, we 'HAVE' to do those missions because certain mats and mods are only available from normal mode missions

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Moga CMDR:

Originally posted by Zeo:

Honest question, but if those players are strong enough why they are not running in solo mode?

Because we do what we want. Like you should. You can play solo if you want. I play solo when I want. I play public when I want.

We aren't there to ruin anyone's fun. We don't know you, or who is in the random groups. We don't waste time assuming anything. We are just playing.

I would not overthink things. I would not take them personal. I would go private if you don't want to play with randoms.

Personally, I find it fun to grind in public to see other characters and players. I've found a lot of like-minded folk grinding away with no complaints. But I understand not everyone is going to be happy at all times.

Just go-+' solo, it is your option.

Wow there's a lot of self insertion here, when I said anything of the above? I just asked a honest question if it's possible to solo queue and still get the mats.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Zeo:

I had to try the first boss a handful of times, because when my game finished loading the boss already was dead and I got no reward of it.

Honest question, but if those players are strong enough why they are not running in solo mode? It's a thing that only drop in co-op mode?

Something like this. Like the matchmaking could be made so these higher levels will be matched together instead of matched with low levels. Also im not hating on the game at all but i just dont enjoy this. The high levels could also be the ones doing this solo instead, so why should i as a low level ? I want to do this content,especially the low level content im still at with similair level players so i can experience the dungeon how its meant to be ,with mechanics i need to learn.