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*^SaoSin^* Jul 19, 2024 @ 5:50am
Frost Walker needs nerfs
Noone is gonna collect 6 orbs in pug without getting freezed or griefed
Make it 4 orbs and win rate on this fight would be 100%

Also no reason for this fight to be this hard while other hard bosses can be done with half of the players and no wipe mechanics...
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AK Ichy47z Jul 19, 2024 @ 10:38am 
So true it's crazy hard to even get anyone to run the orbs on top of trying not to get frozen.
76561197988918266 Jul 19, 2024 @ 10:39am 
The number of embers isn't the issue.
Kashra Fall Jul 19, 2024 @ 10:39am 
Never done the fight before, but if freezing is a problem, why not run the frostproof mod? Aka can't be frozen?
76561197988918266 Jul 19, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Never done the fight before, but if freezing is a problem, why not run the frostproof mod? Aka can't be frozen?
no
*^SaoSin^* Jul 19, 2024 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Never done the fight before, but if freezing is a problem, why not run the frostproof mod? Aka can't be frozen?

This module cant break wipe mechanic.
As far as I know.

Problem with frost is debuff which can ruin the whole runner strat as it absorbs the fire orbs... Runner cant be debuffed unless they have extra orbs to remove it. So you cannot get hit basicly during mech. Everything is also under time pressure. Colosus parts need to be broken fast otherwise you dont get orbs.

It's too much at once in short span of time.

Having perfect positioning doesnt make this fight justice as orb spawn is still random and sometimes even small crabs can spawn them. So teammates running to kill crab for health pack standing on top of them... yep orb spawn and run failed.
Label07 Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by *^SaoSin^*:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Never done the fight before, but if freezing is a problem, why not run the frostproof mod? Aka can't be frozen?

This module cant break wipe mechanic.
As far as I know.

Problem with frost is debuff which can ruin the whole runner strat as it absorbs the fire orbs... Runner cant be debuffed unless they have extra orbs to remove it. So you cannot get hit basicly during mech. Everything is also under time pressure. Colosus parts need to be broken fast otherwise you dont get orbs.

It's too much at once in short span of time.

Having perfect positioning doesnt make this fight justice as orb spawn is still random and sometimes even small crabs can spawn them. So teammates running to kill crab for health pack standing on top of them... yep orb spawn and run failed.
It doesn't I use it on FrostWalker. It is very good as you cannot get chilled by his other attacks but cannot bypass the wipe mechanic.

I think what they could quickly do is spawn those orbs around the map periodically as well as on breaks/kills. That should make this a bit easier without compromising too much.
Toana Jul 19, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
Frost Walker is stupid hard while Molten Fortress is basically free, makes 0 sense
k ! Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
Git gud straight up this what happens when you get carried to end game

Destiny 2 mechanics are way harder on master raids and I don't see people crying about that?

It's literally simple as 3 steps LMAO.

shoot boss head, drops orbs, Run and grab orbs.

wow so hard
Last edited by k !; Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:36pm
Ani Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by k !:
Git gud straight up this what happens when you get carried to end game

Destiny 2 mechanics are way harder on master raids and I don't see people crying about that?

It's literally simple as 3 steps LMAO.

shoot boss head, drops orbs, Run and grab orbs.

wow so hard
It would be fine if I wasn't trying to farm this boss for a 6% drop chance with 3 people that 75% of the time don't understand how the boss works and just pick random flames up or don't shoot the helmet or sensors
Tiramisu Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Never done the fight before, but if freezing is a problem, why not run the frostproof mod? Aka can't be frozen?
wipe mechanic bruh
Tiramisu Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by *^SaoSin^*:
Noone is gonna collect 6 orbs in pug without getting freezed or griefed
Make it 4 orbs and win rate on this fight would be 100%

Also no reason for this fight to be this hard while other hard bosses can be done with half of the players and no wipe mechanics...
The way i did it was to slowly recruit people from pubs until you eventually get a full team. It still won't be easy but atleast each loss can give you progress with these people
Resist Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:08am 
It's not the flame mechanic that makes it unbarable. A half build Afterglow 2 shots the weak spots on his top. It's the immune mechanic that makes me commit a hate crime. It's swamp walker, without being burrowed in the ground, constantly moving up-down its weak points, which are 8, making them the most difficult thing to hit in the game. I've had that damn phase taking over 2 minutes, just because the boss randomly moves around the arena, constantly covering its back legs with with the edges of the map.

Other than that, I don't think the boss is perticularly difficult. The DPS check is a joke. A single High Voltage Bunny can easily kill it before the 2nd wipe mechanic, as long as the immune phase doesn't take forever. Now days I run it with 2 Sniper Gleys, just instantly blowing up all its top weak spots, dropping 16 embers in the first 30 seconds and then pray we get through the immune phases in sub 30 seconds.

That or we abuse the 1 shot Gley build that does 50m damage.
Last edited by Resist; Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:12am
nostrovus Jul 22, 2024 @ 6:29am 
This boss has the same issue I have with some Fromsoft bosses. Don't make a boss you have to run after. i hate chasing after bosses, it's really lame.
kaukey Jul 27, 2024 @ 4:03am 
Originally posted by k !:
Git gud straight up this what happens when you get carried to end game

Destiny 2 mechanics are way harder on master raids and I don't see people crying about that?

It's literally simple as 3 steps LMAO.

shoot boss head, drops orbs, Run and grab orbs.

wow so hard

Guessing you were the one carried
Originally posted by kaukey:
Originally posted by k !:
Git gud straight up this what happens when you get carried to end game

Destiny 2 mechanics are way harder on master raids and I don't see people crying about that?

It's literally simple as 3 steps LMAO.

shoot boss head, drops orbs, Run and grab orbs.

wow so hard

Guessing you were the one carried
Your conclusion is weird. Have tried using logic?
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