Game is gonna die in a month with these horrible grind and drop rates.

[Den0dragonx]

I have played korean mmos in the past and I didnt give a crap cuz playing the game actually felt like you progressed somewhat. This game tho not the case tbh. Especially when it comes to trying to get new characters. 1 defense wave is 14 mintues. 14 minutes for gold waste of time tbh

[Captain Worthy]

The worst part about the defence wave missions are the people who quit at the first reward if it's just gold.

I mean, the next reward stage is just at 10 waves. You'd rather queue up again to do 7 waves instead?

Yesterday I had to actually get a friend to do the defence wave mission grind with me, because it was impossible to not have quitters in random groups.

[DvorNYAk]

you clearly not played games where you grind for something for months. If you wanna save your time and not seeing point in grinding games - just don't play them. This is not your ganre of games. The nowadays grinding games are more easy for players to get something they want. Try to get high tear weapons from mobs in lineage 2 in 2000th with x1 rates, I will see how you will just explode from the time of grind. Grind games are not supposed for you to get everything fast and now. You play game for LONG time and then you earn rewards for your time in game. That also applies to many online games. They will not give you things on the first run or when you played less than 50h in them =\

[Nabbo.Letale]

Origineel geplaatst door Den0dragonx:

I have played korean mmos in the past and I didnt give a crap cuz playing the game actually felt like you progressed somewhat. This game tho not the case tbh. Especially when it comes to trying to get new characters. 1 defense wave is 14 mintues. 14 minutes for gold waste of time tbh

agree

[Den0dragonx]

Origineel geplaatst door DvorNYAk:

you clearly not played games where you grind for something for months. If you wanna save your time and not seeing point in grinding games - just don't play them. This is not your ganre of games. The nowadays grinding games are more easy for players to get something they want. Try to get high tear weapons from mobs in lineage 2 in 2000th with x1 rates, I will see how you will just explode from the time of grind. Grind games are not supposed for you to get everything fast and now. You play game for LONG time and then you earn rewards for your time in game. That also applies to many online games. They will not give you things on the first run or when you played less than 50h in them =\

I have over 1k hours in warframe. And Ive played korean mmos like bdo. Spent hours just for a single level so I know grinding. Its the unrewarding grind thats going to kill this game.

[feline]

nope - _ - . its gonna die couz a " reset account button " and " rng from boss material "

they shoud fix RNG on boss material . bcouz Its double rng. and its will disappoint ppl .

[deadlyuo]

Origineel geplaatst door Den0dragonx:

Origineel geplaatst door Dirty Aguilera:

Has the exact same loot system as warframe and thats still going strong.

It did make me laugh when IGN gave this game a 5 when they gave warframe an 8.6 and that was released with less content and didnt run as well.

Have you played warframe? You can trade and grind almost everything in warframe. All cosmetics you can get for free in warframe. If were going to talk about free to play friendly then warframe is just better in everyway.

At release warframe had nothing of what you mention and yet is still here more than a decade after .... learn a little before saying stupid things .

[DvorNYAk]

Origineel geplaatst door Den0dragonx:

Origineel geplaatst door DvorNYAk:

you clearly not played games where you grind for something for months. If you wanna save your time and not seeing point in grinding games - just don't play them. This is not your ganre of games. The nowadays grinding games are more easy for players to get something they want. Try to get high tear weapons from mobs in lineage 2 in 2000th with x1 rates, I will see how you will just explode from the time of grind. Grind games are not supposed for you to get everything fast and now. You play game for LONG time and then you earn rewards for your time in game. That also applies to many online games. They will not give you things on the first run or when you played less than 50h in them =\

I have over 1k hours in warframe. And Ive played korean mmos like bdo. Spent hours just for a single level so I know grinding. Its the unrewarding grind thats going to kill this game.

1k hours in warframe and forgetting that there is a trade system where you basically get many things quickly cause people are getting random parts and can exchange them. Warframe has "unrewarding" grinding as well. You can like farm a week for Garuda and get - nothing, only resources and other things. That's where the trade comes in. Same in BDO where you can not get something for month and there is auction to ease your burden.

Nowaday warframe is not grindy for players because of people that already grinded or grinding game to sell something for plat. And plat there is really at good point to the people. I can agree that analogue of plat in this game is not even standing to people as plat in warframe to achieve, earn, get, buy.

[A Good Joe]

Zoomers filtered by having to earn things in a game? Say it ain't so..

[WeaverDuck]

Origineel geplaatst door Den0dragonx:

Origineel geplaatst door DvorNYAk:

you clearly not played games where you grind for something for months. If you wanna save your time and not seeing point in grinding games - just don't play them. This is not your ganre of games. The nowadays grinding games are more easy for players to get something they want. Try to get high tear weapons from mobs in lineage 2 in 2000th with x1 rates, I will see how you will just explode from the time of grind. Grind games are not supposed for you to get everything fast and now. You play game for LONG time and then you earn rewards for your time in game. That also applies to many online games. They will not give you things on the first run or when you played less than 50h in them =\

I have over 1k hours in warframe. And Ive played korean mmos like bdo. Spent hours just for a single level so I know grinding. Its the unrewarding grind thats going to kill this game.

1k in warframe, so you just started?
When wf started was completely different, I've been there (9kh, multiple accs, started 2013). You are comparing a game that had 11 years cook time to a game that lived for 2 weeks, bravo.

Till now Nexon actually does a good job adressing issues. Their game is fun, not perfect, but atleast they can go both ways. Warframe is becoming ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ every year.

As for grind, you can farm ultimate chars in few days after starting from scratch (i got ajax this way, lepic is assembling - farmed whole yday, at 10pm after afternoon shift), poured 14 catalysts on thunder cage and ajax u alone. Got 10 chars, few ult weapons which i havent even started grinding for yet at all.

All you have to do is get your ♥♥♥♥ straight and start grinding... or leave

Grind is fine, not even close to lost ark or bdo level of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
So many people annoyed by the fact that they cant cheaply buy their way into good stuff... man

Edit: Ajax and lepic mentioned are ofc ultimate

[JamesFatio]

Origineel geplaatst door Captain Worthy:

The worst part about the defence wave missions are the people who quit at the first reward if it's just gold.

I mean, the next reward stage is just at 10 waves. You'd rather queue up again to do 7 waves instead?

Yesterday I had to actually get a friend to do the defence wave mission grind with me, because it was impossible to not have quitters in random groups.

do it solo, it ain't hard

[Mayakii]

Complaining about grinding in a grinding game. Clearly, the game is not for you. Drop it and move on

[Triggered_Tomato]

just remove or lower odds of getting gold, ffs. Doing 4-5 special ops, all of them netting gold, is bloody murder. i literally want to jump through a window.

[dAsh]

you have my support OP. you tell them about this. so many people praise for the nexon partnership but voices like ours gets ignored.

[Triggered_Tomato]

Origineel geplaatst door WeaverDuck:

Origineel geplaatst door Den0dragonx:

I have over 1k hours in warframe. And Ive played korean mmos like bdo. Spent hours just for a single level so I know grinding. Its the unrewarding grind thats going to kill this game.

1k in warframe, so you just started?
When wf started was completely different, I've been there (9kh, multiple accs, started 2013). You are comparing a game that had 11 years cook time to a game that lived for 2 weeks, bravo.

Till now Nexon actually does a good job adressing issues. Their game is fun, not perfect, but atleast they can go both ways. Warframe is becoming ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ every year.

As for grind, you can farm ultimate chars in few days after starting from scratch (i got ajax this way, lepic is assembling - farmed whole yday, at 10pm after afternoon shift), poured 14 catalysts on thunder cage and ajax u alone. Got 10 chars, few ult weapons which i havent even started grinding for yet at all.

All you have to do is get your ♥♥♥♥ straight and start grinding... or leave

Grind is fine, not even close to lost ark or bdo level of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
So many people annoyed by the fact that they cant cheaply buy their way into good stuff... man

Shill harder please. Sadboi vibes, gatekeeping and bragging of your extensive and vast experience in WF, and as such, your word is law! The final say! Cringe af

[Nikusui 😗]

Have you not played OG maplestory, where you spend an entire day to level one time? LOL.