Grinding is not gaming!!

[ApexAlphaGaming]

Tried for the Freyna Enhanced Cells, 40 TIMES! Not a single drop!!!
If the entire game relies on grinding the same mission over, and over, and over, and over, and over, its a crap game and needs a complete overhaul. EVERYTHING should be researchable if you're gonna add TIME PADDING and FORCE players to use the Research function, make it actually useful.

Considering Nexon has a patent for Dynamic Drop Rates, odds are its ruining the experience for the few thousand players that also can't get a 20% drop rate item.

[StarExile]

It is.

[Paschendale]

Try doing the runs without your tinfoil hat on

[Taiji]

It will pounce on you and chase you out of the game if you show weakness like this!

Just grind something else for a bit.

[Maya-Neko]

Grinding is the process of gathering items, characters and optional things beyond the point of where you could finish the game. That said, if you don't like grinding, then just stick to your starting character or Bunny and finish the story. There's barely anything you need for that, like a few catalysts are definitely helpful, but most characters are completely optional.

Originally posted by ApexAlphaGaming:

its a crap game and needs a complete overhaul.

Why waiting for this game to completely change, when you could just play another game, that is already completely different for TFD?

[PortalShifter]

Originally posted by ApexAlphaGaming:

its a crap game and needs a complete overhaul.

[Manxome]

Originally posted by ApexAlphaGaming:

Tried for the Freyna Enhanced Cells, 40 TIMES! Not a single drop!!!
If the entire game relies on grinding the same mission over, and over, and over, and over, and over, its a crap game and needs a complete overhaul. EVERYTHING should be researchable if you're gonna add TIME PADDING and FORCE players to use the Research function, make it actually useful.

Considering Nexon has a patent for Dynamic Drop Rates, odds are its ruining the experience for the few thousand players that also can't get a 20% drop rate item.

THis is the same brain wiring as those people who sit in casinos all day playing the $5 table. Most people in thew world can't stand casinos, or have so little interest, stepping in once is enough.. Like that, this game is not built for the masses, it's built for those oddly wired brains that enjoy the grind.. HOWEVER, right now, there is a dearth of non woke DEI games.. Games that are just games. especially shooters, WF is ground zero for DEi and woke aggression, Destiny is now a gay soap opera.. so a lot of people are here simply because it's the best of the worst options. Because there are not good options, at least not on PC. As soon as a non woke/DEi looter shooter comes along that is a purchase game, has a good story and good game play, this game will tank out and those casino brains will be whats left.

[Doomvora]

"grinding isnt gaming" is like saying "football isn't a sport"
If you don't like grinding then this isn't a game for you, it's that simple.

[LewdestRoadCone]

stop making fun of this guy, his name literally has the word Gaming in it of course he would know.

[Phares]

All games are glorified hamster wheels in their own right, whose job is to constantly trick you into forgetting you're on a hamster wheel.
Grinding games have the added difficulty in that they want you on that hamster wheel for waaaay longer, but not a lot of games have invested the necessary effort to make that experience pleasant.

If your only option is to run the same mission over and over again, the brain's pattern recognition is going to wake up and start complaining, where you either get insufferably bored that you start complaining and looking for alternatives, or you grow increasingly numb until you turn that part of your brain off.

Either an engaged brain, or a numb one. Two kinds of players. The real trick would be figuring out how to cater to both types.

Any idiot can slap a mechanic onto a game that adds 100 hours arbitrarily.
Making that 100 hours enjoyable is the real trick, and I don't think TFD is quite there yet.
I think figuring out a way that lets people diversify their grind a little so they're not running the same mission over and over, would help immeasureably.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by ApexAlphaGaming:

Tried for the Freyna Enhanced Cells, 40 TIMES! Not a single drop!!!
If the entire game relies on grinding the same mission over, and over, and over, and over, and over, its a crap game and needs a complete overhaul. EVERYTHING should be researchable if you're gonna add TIME PADDING and FORCE players to use the Research function, make it actually useful.

Considering Nexon has a patent for Dynamic Drop Rates, odds are its ruining the experience for the few thousand players that also can't get a 20% drop rate item.

40 times mh? Prove it, show a picture of the amorphous cells. That's how I counted mine lol. My number was 26. Didn't think anyone would pass that!

[Matthew 7:1-5]

Took me about 40 tries for Enzo cells but finally got them today Woot!.

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

I think the issue here, what vary from person to person, because we are, afterall, different, is that how to measure when something is too much, or too less?

[ApexAlphaGaming]

Well After looking up some answers online from NO-trolls/glazers unlike those in these comments, I found that untracking actually made the drop happen. Others have found the same thing.
So the devs have made it so tracking something does in fact make it harder to obtain. The moment I stopped tracking it, it dropped the very next time I ran the operation, but not the 40 times before.
Far from a coincidence if many others are reporting similar things.

[Crawl]

Rng gonna rng.

I farmed a ton of shards to try and get Supply Moisture thinking with 2% drop rate it was going to take a while. Got it on the 2nd try.

Farming parts for Fallen Hope (20% drop) I got 3 copies of MP Collector (2% drop) in the time it took me to get the 4 copies for Fallen Hope.

HP Collector (2% drop) same deal, got it on like the 3rd or 4th try.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.

[Min/Max]

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