Can someone explain what DBNO is?

[bro]

pls and thank you

[BitterBlossom]

down but not out, its when you are crawling on the ground. aka last resort

[bro]

thank you

[Licher.Rus]

Messaggio originale di BitterBlossom:

down but not out, its when you are crawling on the ground. aka last resort

Jesus, why not write just "downed" then?

[bro]

Messaggio originale di Licher.Rus:

Messaggio originale di BitterBlossom:

down but not out, its when you are crawling on the ground. aka last resort

Jesus, why not write just "downed" then?

i believe the issue is regarding translations that is kind of plaguing the game , they are trying to be overly concise with wording because they don't have an actual translation department for the game and instead using AI but Korean and English don't exactly have 1:1 phrasing. I presume "down" in korean is synonymous with "dead" for example.

[Mistfox]

Messaggio originale di Licher.Rus:

Messaggio originale di BitterBlossom:

down but not out, its when you are crawling on the ground. aka last resort

Jesus, why not write just "downed" then?

It's a boxing phrase that suits the occasion IMO. It's when the boxer is down and the referee is doing the 10 count, which is almost the same as the situation here, you're down and there is a timer counting down. Used to be a very famous phrase when boxing as a sport was popular.

[HerZie]

In gaming context this term was used at least since 2017 (PUBG).

[Maya-Neko]

Messaggio originale di Licher.Rus:

Jesus, why not write just "downed" then?

Because back in the day before DBNO was even a thing, "down" meant to be dead. So with the introduction of that feature, there's some ambiguity when overloading the old term with a second meaning. And many games with that feature call it that way, including Fortnite, PUBG or Rainbow Six

[Mistfox]

Messaggio originale di Maya-Neko:

Because back in the day before DBNO was even a thing, "down" meant to be dead. So with the introduction of that feature, there's some ambiguity when overloading the old term with a second meaning.

lol When DBNO was a thing, personal computers were not invented yet. It's a very old term.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down_but_not_out

This was back in the times of Muhammad Ali and George Foreman.

[LewdestRoadCone]

Messaggio originale di bro:

i believe the issue is regarding translations that is kind of plaguing the game , they are trying to be overly concise with wording because they don't have an actual translation department for the game and instead using AI but Korean and English don't exactly have 1:1 phrasing. I presume "down" in korean is synonymous with "dead" for example.

yeah the english translation is one of the main bosses in the game. you can smell a lot of times they elected for a technical translation over a reasonable one.

i can NOT stop laughing at "Favourite" being "Register Attached Item" like the amount of time i spent turning that over in my head, after having attached misc items to that gun. lmao.

you can see this in their live stream too, language is not something they seem to care about. the dev will speak, using speech-to-text to write the korean, hand correct a few things, ship it to discord, and let a bot auto translate the english. it works but its goofy and not great.

[Maya-Neko]

Messaggio originale di Mistfox:

Messaggio originale di Maya-Neko:

Because back in the day before DBNO was even a thing, "down" meant to be dead. So with the introduction of that feature, there's some ambiguity when overloading the old term with a second meaning.

lol When DBNO was a thing, personal computers were not invented yet. It's a very old term.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down_but_not_out

This was back in the times of Muhammad Ali and George Foreman.

This feature got mostly popularized with the rise of casual gaming of the 2010s, in particular with the battle royale genre. Before that, the industry standard was more an instant respawn with occasional tactical shooters like CS only respwaning inbetween rounds.

Obviously there might be something non-gaming related to this, but that had next to no effect onto how shooters approached player death

[bro]

there is no way we are actually debating this, please. be fr