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HappyCamperBubbleBelow 2024年7月18日 0時52分
Sharen needs a buff
First I know Korean Dev likely don't read English forum, so this is kinda venting.

Stun and Cloak do nothing against bosses, neither does her passive(15% damage bonus)

Im not here to claim she needs to be one shot boss killer like Some of the builds out there...
The problem is her modules are rather tame compared to others and 2 of her abilities don't actually benefit from skill improvements(stealth/stun) and don't effect bosses.

Stealth should make the first shot coming out of stealth should do 100% damage + skill power while not consuming ammo.
This is a slight DPS DPS bump, the big thing it allows her to use sniper rifles with far more freedom that other chars, including when dealing with trash.

Now she is a Sniper build that frankly matches her "class" perfectly.

Stock Nuts-reduce armor/resists= by half skill power, I know there is bugged mod that pretty much does this, but it should be default.
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Rogue 2024年7月18日 0時57分 
She's great. I have 3 setup, boss, mobbing and stealth.
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TyresTyco 2024年7月18日 0時57分 
I take every single thing that makes Sharen better. When I first saw her I was like heeeell yeah.. (My favourite warframe was Loki).. got her.. saw how incredibly garbage she is.. and didnt even lvled her up to 40. She surely is no Loki.

Her stealth needs a hefty movement speed buff.. and the potential for far longer duration.. a mod that changes it to have the ability to fight while stealthed.

Only then.. I would love her.
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HappyCamperBubbleBelow 2024年7月18日 1時00分 
She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.
Rogue の投稿を引用：
She's great. I have 3 setup, boss, mobbing and stealth.
最近の変更はHappyCamperBubbleBelowが行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時00分
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Northguard 2024年7月18日 1時01分 
As a stealth, assassin style character you should be able to ramp stealth to high heaven. But she should be glass cannon-ish.

Gives a player the chance to choose an assassin or infiltration style builds.
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Nikusui 😗 2024年7月18日 1時04分 
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.
Rogue の投稿を引用：
She's great. I have 3 setup, boss, mobbing and stealth.

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.
最近の変更はNikusui 😗が行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時05分
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Captain Worthy 2024年7月18日 1時08分 
I unlocked her yesterday and been enjoying her utility a lot on Resource Wave/Block Mining missions.

It's cool to play a class than can go revive in Stealth and clutch the occasions when the team is about to get overwhelmed by mobs.

But she is my fifth Ascendant so I can't spare the time to gear her up for endgame colossi fights.
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Northguard 2024年7月18日 1時13分 
Nikusui 😗 の投稿を引用：
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.

I'd like to see that build being used in an open world farming zone. Unfortunately Sharen can't really solo farm mobs efficiently so she'll always be a niche character. Bunny is just so much better at it.
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Nikusui 😗 2024年7月18日 1時16分 
Shatterfyst の投稿を引用：
Nikusui 😗 の投稿を引用：

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.

I'd like to see that build being used in an open world farming zone. Unfortunately Sharen can't really solo farm mobs efficiently so she'll always be a niche character. Bunny is just so much better at it.
Well that, that's for bossing. I used either bunny, freyna or vallby for speed clearing solo dungeons and missions.
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Northguard 2024年7月18日 1時18分 
Nikusui 😗 の投稿を引用：
Shatterfyst の投稿を引用：

I'd like to see that build being used in an open world farming zone. Unfortunately Sharen can't really solo farm mobs efficiently so she'll always be a niche character. Bunny is just so much better at it.
Well that, that's for bossing. I used either bunny, freyna or vallby for speed clearing solo dungeons and missions.

Not knocking it. Just a shame that's basically all she'll be known for.
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Rogue 2024年7月18日 1時19分 
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.
Rogue の投稿を引用：
She's great. I have 3 setup, boss, mobbing and stealth.

You are wrong, fyi. Did you actually test builds with different combo of modules or just based on "feel" without investing anything. lol.

But she does need 3 different transcendent modules for 3 different situations. She's one of the top boss killer and good enough range mob clear.

Also you can't get stealth bonus AM without her :)
最近の変更はRogueが行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時20分
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HappyCamperBubbleBelow 2024年7月18日 1時23分 
When you are going to link stuff, it helps if the linked content doesn't admit in its own video details that she isn't all that hot compared to other chars.

Here is the Gley Sniper build, that kills the same boss in less then half the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbpUrPi-P4


See the problem... non sniper char, does far higher DPS then the sniper char... using a sniper build.


Nikusui 😗 の投稿を引用：
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.
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HappyCamperBubbleBelow 2024年7月18日 1時26分 
I will also state, I wasn't asking for a massive buff.
In the given sniper build for her, my suggestions would increase her DPS by ~20% and not consume ammo when shooting the first shot from stealth, making her more sustained, for the harder bosses that Thrash around more.
最近の変更はHappyCamperBubbleBelowが行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時29分
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decizion 2024年7月18日 1時30分 
Useless character, only use it for outposts infiltration, same thing for Enzo, only use it for encrypted vaults...
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Nikusui 😗 2024年7月18日 1時33分 
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
When you are going to link stuff, it helps if the linked content doesn't admit in its own video details that she isn't all that hot compared to other chars.

Here is the Gley Sniper build, that kills the same boss in less then half the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbpUrPi-P4


See the problem... non sniper char, does far higher DPS then the sniper char... using a sniper build.
Are you arguing for the sake of arguing? When did this becomes about Gley? You said Sharen is weak in boss, I offered an advise. That's it.
最近の変更はNikusui 😗が行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時35分
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HappyCamperBubbleBelow 2024年7月18日 1時39分 
Learn to read what people write.

Quote myself OP
"Im not here to claim she needs to be one shot boss killer like Some of the builds out there...
The problem is her modules are rather tame compared to others and 2 of her abilities don't actually benefit from skill improvements(stealth/stun) and don't effect bosses."

I will expand by simply saying.
The build you linked would work just fine with a level 1 reactor vs a level 100 gold reactor.

It works just as well with or without
Skill Duration
Skill Range
+skill power
+skill power modifier

Only thing that effects it at all Is skill cooldown.



Nikusui 😗 の投稿を引用：
HappyCamperBubbleBelow の投稿を引用：
When you are going to link stuff, it helps if the linked content doesn't admit in its own video details that she isn't all that hot compared to other chars.

Here is the Gley Sniper build, that kills the same boss in less then half the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbpUrPi-P4


See the problem... non sniper char, does far higher DPS then the sniper char... using a sniper build.
Are you arguing for the sake of arguing? When did this becomes about Gley? You said Sharen is weak in boss, I offered an advise. That's it.
最近の変更はHappyCamperBubbleBelowが行いました; 2024年7月18日 1時49分
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