Sharen needs a buff

[HappyCamperBubbleBelow]

First I know Korean Dev likely don't read English forum, so this is kinda venting.

Stun and Cloak do nothing against bosses, neither does her passive(15% damage bonus)

Im not here to claim she needs to be one shot boss killer like Some of the builds out there...
The problem is her modules are rather tame compared to others and 2 of her abilities don't actually benefit from skill improvements(stealth/stun) and don't effect bosses.

Stealth should make the first shot coming out of stealth should do 100% damage + skill power while not consuming ammo.
This is a slight DPS DPS bump, the big thing it allows her to use sniper rifles with far more freedom that other chars, including when dealing with trash.

Now she is a Sniper build that frankly matches her "class" perfectly.

Stock Nuts-reduce armor/resists= by half skill power, I know there is bugged mod that pretty much does this, but it should be default.

[Watermelon Knife]

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.

Originally posted by Rogue:

She's great. I have 3 setup, boss, mobbing and stealth.

I have issues with you declaring her weak! Hell no!

Sure she's not going to dish out damage like Bunny or Cley! But heck she can outsurvive everyone! You build her with enough duration, you can rescue all three of your downed team mates and not worried about being shot at whilst doing it! No one else has "I escape from battle" button!

Her strength is very subtle and she is best seen as a utility character!

I think the mistake here is making her out as a deadly assassin! As her kit doesn't really do anything to make her as such. However if she was more a undercover spy! Then sure seems a bit more fitting with her kit.

You can keep her stealthed almost all the time, but as long as you use your 1 and 4 on targets that will die! However you need to be much more strategic over who you attack than any other descendant when in a team.

She is a character that requires thought to play and not a mindless button mashing character.

[Min/Max]

It would be nice to see some kind of a buff before her Ult comes out, Currently she still feels like a mid class.

[Nikusui 😗]

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Learn to read what people write.

Quote myself OP
"Im not here to claim she needs to be one shot boss killer like Some of the builds out there...
The problem is her modules are rather tame compared to others and 2 of her abilities don't actually benefit from skill improvements(stealth/stun) and don't effect bosses."

Right? And then you went on to compare Sharen with Gley, or at least one of Gley builds.
Claiming that Gley kills the same boss in half that time, despite your claim that Sharen does not need to be a one shot boss killer, So which is it? Do you need Sharen to perform as well as Gley (hence the video you provided), or not?

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Here is the Gley Sniper build, that kills the same boss in less then half the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbpUrPi-P4


See the problem... non sniper char, does far higher DPS then the sniper char... using a sniper build.

I do not want to waste my time arguing with strangers online. So take that advice or leave it. I don't care if Sharen is buffed, just makes my grind easier. You don't have to be that defensive about it.

[HappyCamperBubbleBelow]

Stealth doesnt work against colossus, you know this right?
Non Colossus content she is good at team revive.

Originally posted by Watermelon Knife:

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.

I have issues with you declaring her weak! Hell no!

Sure she's not going to dish out damage like Bunny or Cley! But heck she can outsurvive everyone! You build her with enough duration, you can rescue all three of your downed team mates and not worried about being shot at whilst doing it! No one else has "I escape from battle" button!

Her strength is very subtle and she is best seen as a utility character!

I think the mistake here is making her out as a deadly assassin! As her kit doesn't really do anything to make her as such. However if she was more a undercover spy! Then sure seems a bit more fitting with her kit.

You can keep her stealthed almost all the time, but as long as you use your 1 and 4 on targets that will die! However you need to be much more strategic over who you attack than any other descendant when in a team.

She is a character that requires thought to play and not a mindless button mashing character.

[Lotvis]

she doesn't she is strong as hell especially when you get an augment module from molten fortress

[Resist]

Sharen literally 1 shots bosses, dude :D .

[Wrayday]

If you have to tweak a character to the nth degree to make it powerful.... you are doing game design wrong.

Her Z ability is cool... when it makes it to it's target... most of the time it just hits a object between or the ground if the target is moving towards her.

Stealth would be cooler if the world was actually alive.

Even using Bunny on Executioner Hard her AOE shock takes out trash mobs around her.

Maybe Give Sharon's stealth an ability that it stays on and all her shots are critical while firing to have some combat utility.... also feed in to the Predator vibe.

I love her design but she is far down on the list of Descendants I want to use for anything other than stealth outposts.

[HappyCamperBubbleBelow]

You decided to say she was fine by linking a build...
So I linked one of the WORST Gley builds... that also was sniper based.

Again... you missed the point where I expressly talked about her SKILLS not being effected by skill power and suggested a buff to make them so... small buff.

Lets put this another way
Enzo using the exact same sniper rifle with mods does more damage then Sharen does over the same amount of time because he can spam shoot due to his skill Supply.

Again, a subpar non optimized build that is one of the WORST Enzo builds... is better then the "BEST" Sharen build.

You brought up specific builds, not I, then you wanted to claim it was me.
Don't want to talk when you get called out? sure, that suits both of us.

Originally posted by Nikusui 😗:

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Learn to read what people write.

Quote myself OP
"Im not here to claim she needs to be one shot boss killer like Some of the builds out there...
The problem is her modules are rather tame compared to others and 2 of her abilities don't actually benefit from skill improvements(stealth/stun) and don't effect bosses."

Right? And then you went on to compare Sharen with Gley, or at least one of Gley builds.
Claiming that Gley kills the same boss in half that time, despite your claim that Sharen does not need to be a one shot boss killer, So which is it? Do you need Sharen to perform as well as Gley (hence the video you provided), or not?

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Here is the Gley Sniper build, that kills the same boss in less then half the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbpUrPi-P4


See the problem... non sniper char, does far higher DPS then the sniper char... using a sniper build.

I do not want to waste my time arguing with strangers online. So take that advice or leave it. I don't care if Sharen is buffed, just makes my grind easier. You don't have to be that defensive about it.

[HappyCamperBubbleBelow]

Got a link to such a build, I would love to see it.

Originally posted by Resist:

Sharen literally 1 shots bosses, dude :D .

[RedFaster]

Sharen should have removed melee cooldown as part of her passive kit at the very least and if one more person tells me "there's a mod for that" I'm going to kick this puppy

[ICZiman]

Originally posted by Shatterfyst:

Originally posted by Nikusui 😗:

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.

I'd like to see that build being used in an open world farming zone. Unfortunately Sharen can't really solo farm mobs efficiently so she'll always be a niche character. Bunny is just so much better at it.

The problem of this game is some Bunnies got easy game "from the box" without any building efford. That makes people dont wonna try to build other characters.
Iv see A LOT people tell Sharen bad. Like you sain she cant farm mobs. WTF!
Try her alt Q mod, put some skill modifier, range and cd mods. And boom, you jump around shooting long range wide getsugas with 2 seconds cd. My best-for-farm frame as i dont wonna play Bunny.

[Resist]

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Got a link to such a build, I would love to see it.

Originally posted by Resist:

Sharen literally 1 shots bosses, dude :D .

The build is already posted in the comment section. However, the guy has 311 shield on that build. Sharen can have 14k+ easily. Camo absorbs 7k+ shields and the first shot of Afterglow hits the Devourer for 13+m damage.

[Watermelon Knife]

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

Stealth doesnt work against colossus, you know this right?
Non Colossus content she is good at team revive.

Originally posted by Watermelon Knife:

I have issues with you declaring her weak! Hell no!

Sure she's not going to dish out damage like Bunny or Cley! But heck she can outsurvive everyone! You build her with enough duration, you can rescue all three of your downed team mates and not worried about being shot at whilst doing it! No one else has "I escape from battle" button!

Her strength is very subtle and she is best seen as a utility character!

I think the mistake here is making her out as a deadly assassin! As her kit doesn't really do anything to make her as such. However if she was more a undercover spy! Then sure seems a bit more fitting with her kit.

You can keep her stealthed almost all the time, but as long as you use your 1 and 4 on targets that will die! However you need to be much more strategic over who you attack than any other descendant when in a team.

She is a character that requires thought to play and not a mindless button mashing character.

I don't use her against Collossi, so no I didn't know. But what I do know about Collossi is their targetting AI is weird! It goes after players even if they do no damage. So there maybe something in the code that targets a Stealthed Sharon in there, but as I said I don't take her in there. I usually use Viessa (or Bunny if I need the extra manoeuvrability)

But I use Sharon on wave missions and dungeons and I have rescued my entire team multiple times. So my statement still stands, her strength is very subtle.

I can't comment about the mod that others are talking about from Molten, but definitely before then, Sharen is like fine wine, you need a certain knowledge to truly appreciate the character.

[Boss]

Originally posted by Nikusui 😗:

Originally posted by HappyCamperBubbleBelow:

She pales compared to any other char... Bunny can do Areas far better, as can Freya,Valby etc
She also in the lowest bracket of weapon DPS against bosses... on par with Bunny...

She is a fun char, but she is weak compared to other decendents.

Build her like this bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAse-ffyNw
I didn't follow strictly, I also use a "+100% dmg to first hit after reload" weapon mod. Paired with sniper rifle, it shortens the time to kill soloable hard boss. It either Sharen or Gley, when i need to open mats with boss these days.
I personally would like that invisibility would work against boss for easier weak point shots.

Anyone testing on Devourer is a joke. I don't understand what's going on with it, but Hard Devourer (weakness to electricity) dies in seconds FLAT. Whereas other bosses with the same weaknesses seemingly chug on.

Obstructor as an example. I melt Devourer, I can barely tickly that dude. A Gley with a Vestigial will out damage Sharen in this video, and that's the shiddy entry DPS for Gley; she only gets stronger.

[HappyCamperBubbleBelow]

I have an AOE farm build, with it on 22second cooldown.
Bunny is OP... but Sharen she is not even on par with Freya or Valby in AOE clearing with maxed out chars.

Originally posted by ICZiman:

Originally posted by Shatterfyst:

I'd like to see that build being used in an open world farming zone. Unfortunately Sharen can't really solo farm mobs efficiently so she'll always be a niche character. Bunny is just so much better at it.

The problem of this game is some Bunnies got easy game "from the box" without any building efford. That makes people dont wonna try to build other characters.
Iv see A LOT people tell Sharen bad. Like you sain she cant farm mobs. WTF!
Try her alt Q mod, put some skill modifier, range and cd mods. And boom, you jump around shooting long range wide getsugas with 2 seconds cd. My best-for-farm frame as i dont wonna play Bunny.