Ultimate Gley Damage Bug

[Zep]

Credit to the original redit OP:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFirstDescendant/comments/1e1c4cx/bug_apparently_ultimate_gley_is_weaker_than/

Not sure if this is known, but here is a summary from testing against lab dummy:

Ultimate Gley's ult (Massacre) does not have the damage increase from the Frenzied proportional HP lost, but normal Gley does.

Ultimate Gley Massacre does not have any damage boost from HP lost when above 50% HP.

Ultimate Gley's Massacre damage is lower than Normal Gley when both are at the same HP level.

Ultimate Gley's Massacre additional damage is fixed when below 50% HP (same at 10% or 40%), the additional damage at 10% HP doesn't even come close to half the additional damage of Normal Gley.

(Unclear) The Support Tech Mod: Walking on a Tight Rope also doesn't seem to work properly with Gley's Frenzied damage boost/HP lost.

Big blunder from Nexon, also proves the game is not pay to win, no way players are paying $100 for a weaker version of the character. /s

Hopefully this post gets some traction, its really disheartening to grind for ultimate Gley just to find out that you end up doing less damage then the normal variant. Or for those that actually bought her. Hopefully this bug gets fixed asap

[Danyel]

okay good to know, wont be farming ult gley then!

[vishuspuss]

hope it makes ppl make less gleys. tired of 99% of gleys doing 2 dmg with their rocket launcher spam

[Zep]

Danyel の投稿を引用：

okay good to know, wont be farming ult gley then!

Ya glad I can save you some time, till they hopefully fix it. It was super deflating finally grinding ult gley then finding this out. Its one thing to go through the timer hoops but when you finally do and get something you should be rewarded with an upgrade ... not a downgrade LOL....

[Boss]

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

hope it makes ppl make less gleys. tired of 99% of gleys doing 2 dmg with their rocket launcher spam

2 damage? Lol okay.

[Nebiros]

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

hope it makes ppl make less gleys. tired of 99% of gleys doing 2 dmg with their rocket launcher spam

Well you didnt understand the post, its about the ult (ability 4) rocket build is ability 3 so the rocket gleys are still out there

[vishuspuss]

Boss の投稿を引用：

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

hope it makes ppl make less gleys. tired of 99% of gleys doing 2 dmg with their rocket launcher spam

2 damage? Lol okay.

if ya want i can start recording hm infiltrations and show ya. super annoying watching them barely moving a boss bar.

not saying the build is bad, but theres tons of people using not-built rocket launchers thinking they doing great damage. meanwhile i press Q and do more damage than they do with 5 seconds of rocket spam

[vishuspuss]

Nebiros の投稿を引用：

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

hope it makes ppl make less gleys. tired of 99% of gleys doing 2 dmg with their rocket launcher spam

Well you didnt understand the post, its about the ult (ability 4) rocket build is ability 3 so the rocket gleys are still out there

just praying to see less in missions lol its super annoying. wouldnt mind so much if they fully built out but its so rare to see one

anything to cut down population would be nice, find more bugs with rocket gley, yeah? :)

[76561197988918266]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULJ-vAqdqU
Seems fine.

Pretty sure the mod is only available on ultimate gley.

More frames should be like this: ultimate should have some kind of downside(not too much but it should exist).

[vishuspuss]

BOKU Haram | Boki Harem の投稿を引用：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULJ-vAqdqU
Seems fine.

wow first person to realize rockets suck vs snipers thats amazing lol

[76561197988918266]

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

BOKU Haram | Boki Harem の投稿を引用：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULJ-vAqdqU
Seems fine.

wow first person to realize rockets suck vs snipers thats amazing lol

rockets are great.

I love using them to make teammates unable to see.

[vishuspuss]

BOKU Haram | Boki Harem の投稿を引用：

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

wow first person to realize rockets suck vs snipers thats amazing lol

rockets are great.

I love using them to make teammates unable to see.

find me in arena ill show ya what to do with those rockets

[Boss]

vishuspuss の投稿を引用：

Boss の投稿を引用：

2 damage? Lol okay.

if ya want i can start recording hm infiltrations and show ya. super annoying watching them barely moving a boss bar.

not saying the build is bad, but theres tons of people using not-built rocket launchers thinking they doing great damage. meanwhile i press Q and do more damage than they do with 5 seconds of rocket spam

?
Hm Infiltrations? I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. Or has to do with Gley.

I can clear HM Infiltrations with bunny solo faster than anything any other descendant can do. That doesn't mean a single thing. Gley is for Intercepts. Obviously.

[Lamiosa]

No one really uses masacre, maybe that is why it did not get known. It is a skill which you usually use, if you collected lots of orbs, to get a pistol with the damage of the weapon you carry, so usual masacre is used with a sniper, as it does the most single damage (shotgun or rocket does way less, I guess because of explosion damage and spray, so the single direct damage is very low).

As others wrote, the most used skills are 1 (frenzy) and the 3rd skill for unlimited ammo. The 2nd skill also sometimes get used to blow up nearby enemies.

[Zep]

Lamiosa の投稿を引用：

No one really uses masacre, maybe that is why it did not get known. It is a skill which you usually use, if you collected lots of orbs, to get a pistol with the damage of the weapon you carry, so usual masacre is used with a sniper, as it does the most single damage (shotgun or rocket does way less, I guess because of explosion damage and spray, so the single direct damage is very low).

As others wrote, the most used skills are 1 (frenzy) and the 3rd skill for unlimited ammo. The 2nd skill also sometimes get used to blow up nearby enemies.

Massacre is actually more used by end game Gley's over launcher build once you get the ultimate mods. The launcher build is just much easier to get early and is extremely effective for its investment. So saying that noone uses massacre is factually incorrect the massacre build throughput wise is way more damage. You slap on a fast RPM submachine gun bloomer or python or just use thundercage and you have infinite uptime on massacre which is insane damage.

Also people are still using outdated information thinking that blood and iron is the best ult mod for the build when it is infact massive sanguification which has a hidden trait of instantly generating 3 blood orbs. So you can use 2 > instantly get 3 orbs > instantly ult > instantly infinite ammo and have perma ult without ever droping it or needing to farm for orbs

[Lamiosa]

Zep の投稿を引用：

Lamiosa の投稿を引用：

No one really uses masacre, maybe that is why it did not get known. It is a skill which you usually use, if you collected lots of orbs, to get a pistol with the damage of the weapon you carry, so usual masacre is used with a sniper, as it does the most single damage (shotgun or rocket does way less, I guess because of explosion damage and spray, so the single direct damage is very low).

As others wrote, the most used skills are 1 (frenzy) and the 3rd skill for unlimited ammo. The 2nd skill also sometimes get used to blow up nearby enemies.

Massacre is actually more used by end game Gley's over launcher build once you get the ultimate mods. The launcher build is just much easier to get early and is extremely effective for its investment. So saying that noone uses massacre is factually incorrect the massacre build throughput wise is way more damage. You slap on a fast RPM submachine gun bloomer or python or just use thundercage and you have infinite uptime on massacre which is insane damage.

Also people are still using outdated information thinking that blood and iron is the best ult mod for the build when it is infact massive sanguification which has a hidden trait of instantly generating 3 blood orbs. So you can use 2 > instantly get 3 orbs > instantly ult > instantly infinite ammo and have perma ult without ever droping it or needing to farm for orbs

Masacre is total stupid with launchers, since it takes single damage and not explosion damage. You do way more damage with a sniper using skill 4 on it.