How does bonus firearm atk (vs. colossus) works?

[Trufio]

Hi,

i was wondering how the bonus firearm atk (vs. something) actually works. I see a lot of video with bonus firearm atk (vs. colossus) on weapons and wondering why i would go for that stat instead of something like : crit hit rate, crit hit dmg, weak point %, firearm %. Is it that the bonus firame atk 2000 = 20% more dmg on the type of enemy?

In brief, is bonus firearm atk (vs. colossus) consider god roll for bossing?

Thanks you!

[Zero]

Yes. Because its a flat damage bonus. Crit hit and weak points just scales based on the weapon's base trait so a crit bonus of 10% will only give 1% additional crit hit rate if the base crit is 10%.

Firearm % bonus is also another best in slot roll.

[Trufio]

Origineel geplaatst door Zero:

Yes. Because its a flat damage bonus. Crit hit and weak points just scales based on the weapon's base trait so a crit bonus of 10% will only give 1% additional crit hit rate if the base crit is 10%.

Firearm % bonus is also another best in slot roll.

Ok thanks you! It means for my python bossing my god god roll would be :
- Firearm atk %
- Bonus firearm atk (vs. colossus)
- Crit hit rate
- Crit hit dmg

I'm guessing for a non crit build it would be something like :
- Firearm atk %
- Bonus firearm atk (vs. colossus)
- weak dmg %
- Element dmg (depends on boss resistance)

[*G3t_R3kt*]

Nah. I think the godroll for the crit build is still like

- Firearm Atk %
- Crit rate %
- Crit dam %
- Weakpoint dam %

Because the weakpoint you can get more % in module while the atk with colossus is not
So combine that you can get high Weakpoint % value . I talk to like 40-50% more

And additional weakpoint is apply to all enemy and not colossus . So in general I think Weakpoint > Colossus

I don't do the math about the detail damage. It just my own opinion so take it with grain of salt

[jandraelune]

Weakpoint bonus from module, 10% is only 0.1% add with 1.0 and should be 0.2 at 2.0, but some bug it only adds 0.08 for 10% :/ Forget weakpoint modules exist.

BTW, Crit dmg will double weakpoint dmg. In the case for Assassin's Edge as its 2.0 and 2.0 with 40% crit chance at base, thats triple base dmg on weakpoint and triple weakpoint if crit on a weakpoint.

[Trufio]

Ok thanks you, i might do my own calculation and testing. Just don't want to waste ressources on reroll, either way, there is 5-6 good rolls juste need to decide witch one i take out.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Flat damage is better than % damage, in most cases. If it's a high end roll for Firearm Atk on Colossus, I'd keep it if that was your Colossus weapon.

Firearm atk %
Firearm atk Vs Colossus
Crit dmg %
Crit hit chance %

Crit always wins over weakpoint in my mind, since you will miss quite often anyways, but if you are godly at aiming, then maybe swap the crit dmg % for weakpoint? You would have to do a lot of math to really know for sure which is better.

You can also try for the elemental damage, but then your weapon is basically only good for specific fights.

[jandraelune]

Weakpoint mods and % add is not worth it, stick with attack power and crit. 10% weakpoint mod = 0.1% add, or at least should as i have found some mods bugged as when put on Assassin's Edge with 2.0 weakpoint that 10% gives 0.08% add, but a 5% mod gives 0.1% as it should. In any case, 1:1 compare of 1% value for attack power, crit rate/dmg, and weakpoint, attack power gives more dps.