Disable crossplay option

[Celdinumbra]

As title is saying...give us a way to disable cross play..its impossible to do any content that requires some thinking or strategy like infiltrations or white walker boss...

[Shyba]

Originally posted by Ewoke:

Originally posted by Shyba:

lmao dude... you act like you NEED to be able to spin 180 degrees in under a half second in this game...spoiler you don't. you don't need ANY sort of extreme precision unless trying to minmax a collosus (in which case you'd be in a premade so your entire argument is irrelevant)

Yes, you are correct, you don't need any of that, and YET console players fail to do the simplest of things like grappling the ground while falling so they don't stay in the AOE zone of the boss once he reappears. That's my whole point, they fail doing the simplest of things.

so do PC gamers?? PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE it doesn't matter what system they play on.. bad players are going to suck regardless of the hardware.

Just as Skilled ones will excel regardless of hardware.

the end result is if you don't want to deal with bad players either play with friends only or be good enough that they CAN'T HOLD YOU BACK.

for instance my first Molten Fortress had a Viessa who quite literally could have soloed it in a under a minute if not for the frenzy mechanic being extremely unsolo friendly she didn't need ANY of the rest of us except for that part.

[Setian]

Originally posted by Ewoke:

Root of the problem is that console players always had, and will have worse controls for shooters and platformers due to their low, and limited turning possibilities, you can snap your mouse, you can't do the same with a pad, controllers lack the same kind of precission the mouse provides, and honestly it shouldn't me mine or anybody else problem, because it's the console player' that made the choice of getting a console, so he should be the only one to have to deal with it, not me and other PC players who don't want to carry them. I am not asking for kicking them out of the game, or completely disabling the cross-play, I am asking for an option so we have a choice. If you think that's bad, then you're simply delusional.

My god good man/woman/it...
Use enters... you make it very hard to read for us.

I don't get your point, what does this have to do with bad players and a option to disable cross play. How many times do I have to repeat myself...

Giving the option to disable cross play is not going to solve the problem being matched with poorly skilled people...

No one actually did the math if console players are really worse than PC players, its all based on feeling and experiences backed by excuses for themselves being so called "better".

Long story short, I'm not against a toggle, but I'm also not supporting having the toggle for the sole reason "console players are worse than PC players and a disabling feature would solve this"... cause it won't

[Shyba]

Originally posted by Setian:

No one actually did the math if console players are really worse than PC players, its all based on feeling and experiences backed by excuses for themselves being so called "better".

Long story short, I'm not against a toggle, but I'm also not supporting having the toggle for the sole reason "console players are worse than PC players and a disabling feature would solve this"... cause it won't

I mean... "mechanically" a high DPI mouse IS statistically better unless the game hardcaps turnspeed. but game developers aren't designing things with that as a baseline, they are designing it around a standardized speed.

which in turn means PC gamers that "need" their fancy high DPI mouse are using a technically "unfair advantage" beyond what is developer intended if you want to be pedantic about it.

[Setian]

Originally posted by Shyba:

Originally posted by Setian:

No one actually did the math if console players are really worse than PC players, its all based on feeling and experiences backed by excuses for themselves being so called "better".

Long story short, I'm not against a toggle, but I'm also not supporting having the toggle for the sole reason "console players are worse than PC players and a disabling feature would solve this"... cause it won't

I mean... "mechanically" a high DPI mouse IS statistically better.. but game developers aren't designing things in mind for that.

they are designing it around a standardized speed... which in turn means PC gamers that "need" their fancy high DPI mouse are using a technically "unfair advantage" beyond what is developer intended if you want to be pedantic about it.

They do have aim assist which has other benefits
I think if you take all benefits and drawbacks in consideration for both platforms its pretty equal

But its hard to measure, and it depends on the player controlling their mouse and keyboard, or their controller. I think it will always come back to a skill issue.

[Ewoke]

For crying out loud, if hardware didn't have an impact on the performance then console developers wouldn't block using mouse and keyboard in their games, and it wouldn't be a bannable offense in making it work regardless of the prohibition, using adapters that trick consoles into thinking M&K are a gamepad are considered hacking. Know why? Because it gives its uses an advantage over other players.
And yes, it absolutely would help the issue, I wouldn't 100% solve it, but it would help, since majority of the console players are bad.
Thing is in order to be good on console, you have to actually be insane, while on PC all it takes is being mediocre, because using M&K is just easier and more intuitive. Aiming assist doesn't help with movement, only aiming, which shouldn't be an issue anyway because bosses are in sizes of damn buildings.I don't even expect them to aim at the weak points, all I want is for them to stop dying because they lack any kind of awarness due to clunky controls with slow rotation speeds.

[Setian]

Judging by your answer I don't think you understood what I mean and I leave it at that.

Can't throw every console player over the same hedge and say the majority is bad... PC players often think they are better than they claim to be but its not (and I'm a PC player too just not one of them thinking I'm better than the others or complaining about others being bad)

Can't wait for the devs to listen and see another topic popup complaining about bad PC players and wanting them to have a option to disable them as well LOL

[Lamiosa]

Originally posted by Ewoke:

For crying out loud, if hardware didn't have an impact on the performance then console developers wouldn't block using mouse and keyboard in their games, and it wouldn't be a bannable offense in making it work regardless of the prohibition, using adapters that trick consoles into thinking M&K are a gamepad are considered hacking. Know why? Because it gives its uses an advantage over other players.
And yes, it absolutely would help the issue, I wouldn't 100% solve it, but it would help, since majority of the console players are bad.
Thing is in order to be good on console, you have to actually be insane, while on PC all it takes is being mediocre, because using M&K is just easier and more intuitive. Aiming assist doesn't help with movement, only aiming, which shouldn't be an issue anyway because bosses are in sizes of damn buildings.I don't even expect them to aim at the weak points, all I want is for them to stop dying because they lack any kind of awarness due to clunky controls with slow rotation speeds.

Sounds like self-defending. Maybe you are the reason the group fails and want to point to others?
I believe that PC players might have an advantage at this game, but you are repeatly trying to point out how good you are and how bad others are.

[Ewoke]

Originally posted by Setian:

Judging by your answer I don't think you understood what I mean and I leave it at that.

Can't throw every console player over the same hedge and say the majority is bad... PC players often think they are better than they claim to be but its not (and I'm a PC player too just not one of them thinking I'm better than the others or complaining about others being bad)

Can't wait for the devs to listen and see another topic popup complaining about bad PC players and wanting them to have a option to disable them as well LOL

It's you who need to understand that I am not talking about being insane in the game, popping heads and weakpoints like crazy, doing insane parkour, and techs, I am talking about doing very simple things lik-.. no, screw this, I am done, we ain't gonna agree on this and I am already tired of this conversation. All I want is to have an option, I am not calling up to arms against console players, I don't want them gone from the game, I just don't want them in my games, because in my experience it's 100% them who are unaware of pretty much anything, and can't roll or grapple out of bosses AOE, everytime I look up the party list to see who just died, and there's a console symbol, either xbox or PS, and I am tired of it, that's it, nothing more.

[New Kid Cream Lean!]

write "console=AUTOLEAVE" and leave , mass leaves will work i guess

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Ewoke:

Originally posted by Setian:

Judging by your answer I don't think you understood what I mean and I leave it at that.

Can't throw every console player over the same hedge and say the majority is bad... PC players often think they are better than they claim to be but its not (and I'm a PC player too just not one of them thinking I'm better than the others or complaining about others being bad)

Can't wait for the devs to listen and see another topic popup complaining about bad PC players and wanting them to have a option to disable them as well LOL

It's you who need to understand that I am not talking about being insane in the game, popping heads and weakpoints like crazy, doing insane parkour, and techs, I am talking about doing very simple things lik-.. no, screw this, I am done, we ain't gonna agree on this and I am already tired of this conversation. All I want is to have an option, I am not calling up to arms against console players, I don't want them gone from the game, I just don't want them in my games, because in my experience it's 100% them who are unaware of pretty much anything, and can't roll or grapple out of bosses AOE, everytime I look up the party list to see who just died, and there's a console symbol, either xbox or PS, and I am tired of it, that's it, nothing more.

A neat trick to not even need to grapple or roll out of the Colossi AoE is to use a melee attack like the punch while in the air, to get down much faster. Then you can just run out with plenty of time to spare.

Just spreading awareness.

[Xantros]

Originally posted by Ewoke:

I 100% agree, my experience with the xxox, and PS players is that they join while underleveled, and just keep dying, they turn my gameplay into holding X simulator.
You can do it by editing an ini file, but I'd love to have it as an actual option in-game.

They probably have better aim than you, on boss weak points because of aim assist

[Delerium75]

Originally posted by Xantros:

Originally posted by Ewoke:

I 100% agree, my experience with the xxox, and PS players is that they join while underleveled, and just keep dying, they turn my gameplay into holding X simulator.
You can do it by editing an ini file, but I'd love to have it as an actual option in-game.

They probably have better aim than you, on boss weak points because of aim assist

No Aim Assist is going to make up for the lack of precision you will suffer from picking a controller over a mouse.

[vishuspuss]

HD2 was straight awful until i turned crossplay off.

get shot in the back constantly, lots of trolling, lots of pks, people idkwtf2do...

all fixed turning by off crossplay.

there are A FEW other games where you can turn off crossplay and its much more enjoyable. anyone arguing saying "pc players just as bad as console" never experienced this before

[xTNPxSeal]

Why disable a feature that could one day save you as in my case my first hard boss mode fight and guess who it was that picked me up, a console player and when he went down I returned the favor. There's no need to disable cross-play as Setian said there are good pc players and bad ones, same goes for consoles.