Discussion: Should outpost timers be removed?

[JamesFatio]

The 5 minute timer on outposts are annoying as they either have you waiting another 5 minutes to kill all the enemies in like 30 seconds tops or you end up jumping between maps for chances of reset outposts.
On the other hand, if they remove the timer it will decrease time to farm and therefore might decrease overall play time, which is bad in terms of an online game.

[Shyba]

removed... no because hte point of the entire genre is to grind loot so making things INSTANT hurts it in the long run (you run out of things to farm faster)

LOWERED? absolutely. shouldn't be more then 2 minutes

there's USUALLY 2-3 outposts that can drop amorphs that give whatever item you are after so just bounce between them (also removes the tedium of seeing the SAME fight constantly)

[76561197988918266]

Need to increase droprate instead.

If the droprate was 100%, the cooldown would be naturally irrelevant as I could just crack one open during that time(farming up shards on the spot).

[Shyba]

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Honestly, I think there should be a mission to make it spawn. But that is just my opinion.

i'd actually agree with that.. well not a mission but activating all the sensor towers (the ones that boost the time available) should LOWER the time till it reactivates since the extended time is irrelevant since not a single outpost takes more then 30 seconds to trigger the boss (which then gives you a preset 2:30 to kill it)

[Kashra Fall]

Removed? No, they should stay.

However, I think there should be a timing difference for destroyed/infiltrated.

It doesn't make any sense that an outpost that you just hit the buttons to, has the same cooldown of one that got ransacked. Destroyed should be 5 mins, infiltrated should be 2:30, just my thoughts.

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:

Need to increase droprate instead.

If the droprate was 100%, the cooldown would be naturally irrelevant as I could just crack one open during that time(farming up shards on the spot).

Nah. A short wait time, equals more runs, equals higher rate to get pattern. I ain't waiting 5 minutes to still not get something with a boosted rate. I'd rather run it more and entertain myself rather than sit and wait.

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por Shyba:

removed... no because hte point of the entire genre is to grind loot so making things INSTANT hurts it in the long run (you run out of things to farm faster)

LOWERED? absolutely. shouldn't be more then 2 minutes

there's USUALLY 2-3 outposts that can drop amorphs that give whatever item you are after so just bounce between them (also removes the tedium of seeing the SAME fight constantly)

Nice idea.
If not a hard nerf to the timer, they could provide us with ways to decrease the timer by like 30 seconds for each of those surveillance posts they put across the map that at current gives us more time to complete the outpost.

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por Kashra Fall:

Removed? No, they should stay.

However, I think there should be a timing difference for destroyed/infiltrated.

It doesn't make any sense that an outpost that you just hit the buttons to, has the same cooldown of one that got ransacked. Destroyed should be 5 mins, infiltrated should be 2:30, just my thoughts.

oooh, I like this one. Increases the need to bring a sharen player with. More interesting gameplay.

[Kashra Fall]

Publicado originalmente por JamesFatio:

Publicado originalmente por Kashra Fall:

Removed? No, they should stay.

However, I think there should be a timing difference for destroyed/infiltrated.

It doesn't make any sense that an outpost that you just hit the buttons to, has the same cooldown of one that got ransacked. Destroyed should be 5 mins, infiltrated should be 2:30, just my thoughts.

oooh, I like this one. Increases the need to bring a sharen player with. More interesting gameplay.

Think anyone doing outposts that has access to using sharen, be it normal or hard mode, should be using her. The increased drops is just too good and it is so fast. Just get maximize duration and skill extension. Enjoy your 18 second cloak lol.

[Ravtec]

Since most don't know. You can teleport away from them and teleport back to reset the timer.

[侍Kage]

not the timer, the content itself needs to be removed. Give us a different content, should include killing monsters and less teleport/afk. An endless mode would be fun, valuable drops should drop after like 20 minutes or so and the endless mode should get harder as well. This will make people to make builds for their characters, min max and everything it will be more fun.

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por Ravtec:

Since most don't know. You can teleport away from them and teleport back to reset the timer.

I mentioned it in the thread but thanks for clarifying

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por 侍Kage:

not the timer, the content itself needs to be removed. Give us a different content, should include killing monsters and less teleport/afk. An endless mode would be fun, valuable drops should drop after like 20 minutes or so and the endless mode should get harder as well. This will make people to make builds for their characters, min max and everything it will be more fun.

Too big of an ask, that would be additional content released at a later stage of this games life.

[Ravtec]

Publicado originalmente por JamesFatio:

Publicado originalmente por Ravtec:

Since most don't know. You can teleport away from them and teleport back to reset the timer.

I mentioned it in the thread but thanks for clarifying

Ahh sorry did miss your reply. Stil good on you to notify the community.

[JamesFatio]

Publicado originalmente por Kashra Fall:

Publicado originalmente por JamesFatio:

oooh, I like this one. Increases the need to bring a sharen player with. More interesting gameplay.

Think anyone doing outposts that has access to using sharen, be it normal or hard mode, should be using her. The increased drops is just too good and it is so fast. Just get maximize duration and skill extension. Enjoy your 18 second cloak lol.

I have her but I'm gonna be honest I never use her because theres always a sharen already waiting by the outposts. I salute you sharen players, thanks for the extra patterns.

[Shyba]

Publicado originalmente por Kashra Fall:

Publicado originalmente por JamesFatio:

oooh, I like this one. Increases the need to bring a sharen player with. More interesting gameplay.

Think anyone doing outposts that has access to using sharen, be it normal or hard mode, should be using her. The increased drops is just too good and it is so fast. Just get maximize duration and skill extension. Enjoy your 18 second cloak lol.

to play devils advocate for a moment... Sharen may mean "extra drops" but not always USEFUL drops lol.. plus the massive headache of needing to go private just to keep idiots from rushing in

in normal yeah it's a 2nd chance at the sole Amorph but in hard it's two SEPERATE amorphs and sometimes you don't even give a crap about the bonus one
like for instance Ult Viessa spiral catalyst amorph 118 in Frozen valley is on the DEFAULT reward.. the bonus has NORMAL AJAX AND JAYBER WOO... why waste effort infiltrating that when those are easier obtained elsewhere (it also has blue beetle nano tube and an enduring legacy blueprint but again NOT locked to here only)
it's a difference of clearing it in 5 seconds with bunny vs 25 as sharen meaning i can warp reset it 20 seconds faster as Bunny :x