The First Descendant

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LSTR Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:40am
Rigged drop rates
I perfectly understand that 10% DOES NOT mean 1 drop in 10 tries, 10 drops in 100 tries, etc., but it's been progressively harder to get literally any parts. It takes me 15+ tries for a 32%-38% weapon part. This gets even worse when applied to descendant parts - as soon as I get 3/4 blueprints, the last piece, no matter the %, takes at least 30+ tries.
Been trying to get Kyle spiral for 3 days, it's listed as 10%. I've gotten 5 6% activators so far out of 30+ attempts. This happens every single time I am 1 part away from completing a set for any descendant. I've played Warframe before they added the relic system, I know there can be unlucky streaks of 30+ tries to no avail, but this is just getting borderline insane.

Am I simply 'unlucky account' or anyone else experiencing this?
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Kashra Fall Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:42am 
You're just unlucky. It took me 6 tries to get a 20%, where as my friend got a 10% in 1 try and a 20% in 3 tries. It's just RNG.
Echo2Omega Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:45am 
30 attempts is a very small sample size.
DoT Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:45am 
The rates most certainly are rigged, for some reason, i always get the rare 6% drop rate items first try, crafting descendants for me has been the easiest part of the game so far.

The 6% rates must be more like 50% with how often i get them, this includes activators blueprints.

Suffering from success.... *sigh*
alan0n Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:53am 
I got ALL the parts for ult Valby in less than 30 attempts. You just have crap RNG my friend.
[STG] Dante Aug 9, 2024 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by LSTR:
I perfectly understand that 10% DOES NOT mean 1 drop in 10 tries, 10 drops in 100 tries, etc., but it's been progressively harder to get literally any parts. It takes me 15+ tries for a 32%-38% weapon part. This gets even worse when applied to descendant parts - as soon as I get 3/4 blueprints, the last piece, no matter the %, takes at least 30+ tries.
Been trying to get Kyle spiral for 3 days, it's listed as 10%. I've gotten 5 6% activators so far out of 30+ attempts. This happens every single time I am 1 part away from completing a set for any descendant. I've played Warframe before they added the relic system, I know there can be unlucky streaks of 30+ tries to no avail, but this is just getting borderline insane.

Am I simply 'unlucky account' or anyone else experiencing this?
i've almost got Ultimate Bunny & Gley while farming for Kyle. Running by helping someone out noticing I have an amorphous and getting their drops 1st attempt by accident XD Kyle is eluding me harder than 3 ultimate descendants.....
Viper Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Some Guy:
The rates most certainly are rigged, for some reason, i always get the rare 6% drop rate items first try, crafting descendants for me has been the easiest part of the game so far.

The 6% rates must be more like 50% with how often i get them, this includes activators blueprints.

Suffering from success.... *sigh*
rigged why.. They can have any drop rates they want. They make the game. You should be happy there 3% on the really rare stuff. I have seen games where its .1% or worse.
[STG] Dante Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Viper:
Originally posted by Some Guy:
The rates most certainly are rigged, for some reason, i always get the rare 6% drop rate items first try, crafting descendants for me has been the easiest part of the game so far.

The 6% rates must be more like 50% with how often i get them, this includes activators blueprints.

Suffering from success.... *sigh*
rigged why.. They can have any drop rates they want. They make the game. You should be happy there 3% on the really rare stuff. I have seen games where its .1% or worse.
you're right and the devs have agreed the drop rates are trash and are fixing it along with a pity system. It's weird that people are defending trash rng even Nexon says is bad. You couldn't havea worse take lmao.
Viper Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by STG Dante:
Originally posted by Viper:
rigged why.. They can have any drop rates they want. They make the game. You should be happy there 3% on the really rare stuff. I have seen games where its .1% or worse.
you're right and the devs have agreed the drop rates are trash and are fixing it along with a pity system. It's weird that people are defending trash rng even Nexon says is bad. You couldn't havea worse take lmao.
I have seen no such comments by the developers. Would you like to link that.
Viper Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
Originally posted by Viper:
"Drop Rate Improvement Plans

While all of our drop rate systems are operating fairly in The First Descendant, we do understand that some players are struggling with the vagaries of drop rate. To address this, we're planning to introduce a new system where you can more easily get the item you want after repeating the activity a certain number of times.

The First Descendant has various missions and Amorphous Materials with chance-dependent rewards. We're considering how we can effectively take care for the drop-rate issue in such diverse reward systems, and we're working to create a farming structure that players will be happy with. We hope to make improvements before long to provide a more rational and satisfying farming experience."
https://tfd.nexon.com/en/news/2614115

well that will not satisfy these people. They will still complain.
Last edited by Viper; Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:21am
Twisty Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Kyo:
Originally posted by Viper:
have seen no such comments by the developers. Would you like to link that.

"Drop Rate Improvement Plans

While all of our drop rate systems are operating fairly in The First Descendant, we do understand that some players are struggling with the vagaries of drop rate. To address this, we're planning to introduce a new system where you can more easily get the item you want after repeating the activity a certain number of times.

The First Descendant has various missions and Amorphous Materials with chance-dependent rewards. We're considering how we can effectively take care for the drop-rate issue in such diverse reward systems, and we're working to create a farming structure that players will be happy with. We hope to make improvements before long to provide a more rational and satisfying farming experience."

Source: https://tfd.nexon.com/en/news/2614115
So the drop rates are working as intended, as stated by Nexon. Good to know!
As well, they are taking pity on the very vocal players who can't stand not getting what they want? Also good to know.
harald Aug 9, 2024 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Twisty:
Originally posted by Kyo:

"Drop Rate Improvement Plans

While all of our drop rate systems are operating fairly in The First Descendant, we do understand that some players are struggling with the vagaries of drop rate. To address this, we're planning to introduce a new system where you can more easily get the item you want after repeating the activity a certain number of times.

The First Descendant has various missions and Amorphous Materials with chance-dependent rewards. We're considering how we can effectively take care for the drop-rate issue in such diverse reward systems, and we're working to create a farming structure that players will be happy with. We hope to make improvements before long to provide a more rational and satisfying farming experience."

Source: https://tfd.nexon.com/en/news/2614115
So the drop rates are working as intended, as stated by Nexon. Good to know!
As well, they are taking pity on the very vocal players who can't stand not getting what they want? Also good to know.


why so salty? I can perfecty understand some ppl beeing 'vocal' about not getting what they are farming for after hours and hours... this is afterall a game, should be fun, and maybe those ppl may not have a lot of time on their hands to play it, making it even more frustrating... and what if he is a less patient person then maybe you are, why do you judge? Seems to me that last bit of your comment was a bit rude against someone you don't even know... hope ppl around you treat you more fair then you do in this chat
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