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Amorphous Material #113AA's the ultimate bunny enhanced cells drop rate is legit 10%?
Already shape the amorphous #113AA like 20++ time and still doesn't drop a single ultimate bunny enhanced cells... It's not supposed to drop 1 enhanced cells in every 10 round?
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alan0n Aug 8, 2024 @ 9:12am 
Nope. You have a one in ten chance every time. There is no pity system currently. If you have actually tried it 20x then mathematically speaking you should be getting it very soon.
CoopedUp Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:18am 
Has anyone actually got it to drop from material 73AA or 113AA since the new Luna patch with the new Mutant materials?

I'm just curious since I've farmed 73AA's 42 times and 113AA's 18 times and have not gotten it to drop yet. I've managed to get 5 Energy Activator blueprints, 8 Ultimate Valby parts, and so many weapon blueprints. I'm actually wondering if the new Mutant Materials are actually bugged, so I'd like it if someone could report that they HAVE managed to get Ultimate Bunny's Enhanced Cells from one of the new Mutant Materials.
Boink Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by CoopedUp:
Has anyone actually got it to drop from material 73AA or 113AA since the new Luna patch with the new Mutant materials?

I'm just curious since I've farmed 73AA's 42 times and 113AA's 18 times and have not gotten it to drop yet. I've managed to get 5 Energy Activator blueprints, 8 Ultimate Valby parts, and so many weapon blueprints. I'm actually wondering if the new Mutant Materials are actually bugged, so I'd like it if someone could report that they HAVE managed to get Ultimate Bunny's Enhanced Cells from one of the new Mutant Materials.

I can confirm it drops... The Ult Valby one was a pain with my RNG.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3305684322
awddwa Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:39am 
"It's not supposed to drop 1 enhanced cells in every 10 round?" -> No it's not. This is a common misconception. If what you said is true, then for a similar experiment using coin flips, if you flip a coin 10 times then you should get 5 heads and 5 tails, since the chance of getting a head on a flip is 50% and the chance of getting a tail on a coin flip is also 50%. But surely if everyone try flipping a coin 10 times, some of them will get more then 5 heads or less than 5 heads or even no heads at all. It's called "probability", not a "guarantee".

Use a "binomial distribution calculator"to properly calculate your chances. Try a google search for one.
For 10% drop chance of ult bunny enhanced cell blueprint from amorphous material 113 AA done 20 times with the expected drop of at least 1 time, your chance of getting it is 87.84% which is pretty high but still doesn't guarantee you to get it within 20 tries.
If you raise the number of trials to 30, then you have the probability of getting at least 1 time at 95.76%, so it's almost certain that you'll get it. Maybe do a few more tries since you are so close to getting it already.
CoopedUp Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Boink:

I can confirm it drops... The Ult Valby one was a pain with my RNG.

Thank you! As a programmer running into this bad of a drop rate for the first time on a new patched in material my brain was beginning to wonder "what if". With the confirmation I'll try my luck some more at one of the mutant variables a couple dozen more times before I try a run at the purple 3% material.
Boink Aug 9, 2024 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by CoopedUp:
Originally posted by Boink:

I can confirm it drops... The Ult Valby one was a pain with my RNG.

Thank you! As a programmer running into this bad of a drop rate for the first time on a new patched in material my brain was beginning to wonder "what if". With the confirmation I'll try my luck some more at one of the mutant variables a couple dozen more times before I try a run at the purple 3% material.

To show you how much I spent clearing this maybe 5-6 hours (including shards and the boss which is easy for me). The worst experience I keep getting the Ult Bunny piece, even TWICE in a row in a session. I was trying hard to get the Ultimate Valby at 20% LOL.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3305701072

That is 48 Amorphs of pattern 72 LOL. It was my last piece to complete my descendant list.

It is probably one of the worst ones. I know I did Executioner 30x for Gley piece and I did 25 ish for Ajax.
Last edited by Boink; Aug 9, 2024 @ 5:21am
Boink Aug 9, 2024 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by SsvenN:
I've got full UBunny in 4 hours, friend got it in 6, and his gf took like 10 hours. Seem's like you really on a bad side of a coin, it just ain't flipping for you.

The fastest-recorded Ult Valby is around 90 minutes. It took me 4x as long to get one piece.

The other pieces were easy by the way. Just one 20% piece LOL. The code was easy for me got it in 4 Gluttony runs.

Sometimes it is great to live on the right side of the coin.
Boink Aug 9, 2024 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by SsvenN:
Yeah, to be fair, i was on the lucky side all the time, usually got what i need in <3 tries, and at max, used 15 amorphs to get the stuff. Only one time i was unlucky - Sharen BP, it took 25 times tho :D

I had a similar experience except for 3 pieces. Gley (Executioner), An Ajax piece, and the 73AA pattern Valby.

Luckily I needed the blueprints and RNG was on my side dealing with Crystallization Catalyst.
CoopedUp Aug 9, 2024 @ 7:14am 
Originally posted by SsvenN:
I've got full UBunny in 4 hours, friend got it in 6, and his gf took like 10 hours. Seem's like you really on a bad side of a coin, it just ain't flipping for you.

That's for sure. Normally I've had good luck with everything and usually get what I'm after within 10-15 Amorphs, after 40 -> 73AAs I was suspecting a bug which is why I recently switched to 113AAs, which is slower to farm shards for but easier to farm the Amorphs.
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