The First Descendant

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Nero Aug 4, 2024 @ 10:38pm
Valby will crash your game
I was using Valby during my usual gameplay loop, very fun thb, but if I start spamming my abilities in the same spot eventually the game will crash due to an overload of vfx (settings high).
I can understand that people may not spam everything in a 5m range overlapping 7/8 abilities because of low cd and high duration but man, why do you make it possible if it isn't stable then...
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Mayakii Aug 4, 2024 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Nero:
why do you make it possible if it isn't stable then...
This could be a hardware limitation on your own end, but I am not going to deny the possibility that the game doesn't handle it well either, as games are complicated and stuff like this can happen without the blame on the developers.
SeventhCaliber Aug 4, 2024 @ 11:26pm 
Iv been using Valby regular and ultimate and I have had no issue's since.
Kashra Fall Aug 4, 2024 @ 11:28pm 
Has nothing to do with Valby. Sometimes the engine just can't take it and it crashes, as with any game.
Nero Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by Vighkael:
Iv been using Valby regular and ultimate and I have had no issue's since.
have you tried using its first 3 abilities on top of each other for 8/9 times? I did that and I crashed multiple times but if I don't stack them then I can use it without any issues
Last edited by Nero; Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:24am
Nero Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Has nothing to do with Valby. Sometimes the engine just can't take it and it crashes, as with any game.
true but it's weird that I encountered crash multiple times doing the exact same thing
Its been a bit since i last played valby, though ill probably be playing her again soon as im crafting the ult version. Im fairly certain I have only had the game hard crash while playing Valby. I know I havent hard crashed in weeks and i havent played her in weeks. As I recall my crashes typically happened during Big Splash.
Raziel Aug 5, 2024 @ 12:39am 
same issue here... all was fine before the last patch, after that if I do the Valby run the game crashes/freezes regularly every half hour or so. I have a high-end PC so I I do not believe that it is a hardware problem, especially hearing that others have the same issue.
Eevl Aug 5, 2024 @ 1:02am 
It happend with me too - Valby crash - place Valby run area after 5-10 min (game just froze) but Bunny was totaly ok
Rogue Aug 5, 2024 @ 1:04am 
Valby, 1.0.5, tend to freeze the game in that fortress outpost farm point if you do the dive move. Did not test with 1.0.6, but works 1.0.4 and earlier.

Valby does work everywhere else. Special ops, infiltration, void intercepts. I even had to move to another outpost in sterile land for the valby run v.2 due to the above mentioned issue.
Last edited by Rogue; Aug 5, 2024 @ 1:33am
TGHoly Aug 5, 2024 @ 1:37am 
I made Valby run farm yesterday and my game crash 3 times continue not sure if only me who crash or affect entire map.
Nero Aug 5, 2024 @ 2:05am 
Originally posted by B R O K E N:
Curious are you running supply moisture mod? Since there is also an interaction while standing on water.

If so try to take it off see if it still happens?
yes
Jerk Meinhoff Aug 5, 2024 @ 2:10am 
Same issue will post here again if I don't find a fix. I think I should look into disabling or dumbing down particle effects. I have a 8950x3d and a 4090 strix, so it's not the hardware that's the issue (also I'm not running RT or frame gen as those introduce instability, also not running the game at the highest settings as some settings have no visual difference but performance impact).
Adonnay Aug 5, 2024 @ 2:13am 
Does it just freeze for you as well? I can hear the sound just fine continuing on, just the graphic freezes.
Jerk Meinhoff Aug 5, 2024 @ 2:37am 
So I did a few Valby runs, changed the following settings and didn't get a crash so far:
-Visibility: High (probably does nothing but just putting it here for full disclosure)
-Shadows: High (thinking Valby turning to water and casting a shadow could cause an issue)
-Reflections: Med (Valby turning to water is noticeable here)
-Effects: Med (water effects on ground nerfed)
-Physics: Med (probably does nothing).

Now I'll try to narrow it down and do more tests. But highly likely it's the 'effects' setting. I seriously doubt the other settings would cause this crash. But Reflections on top of effects stands out on Valby vs any other Descendant. Her water dmg stacks, so all 3 skills can be placed on the same spot and while visually it might not look like much of a difference it might be far larger demand than what is visually shown. So that's my thought process on what's causing this issue on Valby.

Again will change the settings to narrow this down.
Jerk Meinhoff Aug 5, 2024 @ 3:26am 
So for me, it's the effects like I originally thought. I tested 10 runs. May not be the same for everyone. Turn that setting lower OR don't fire off all your skills. Also I noticed more than a few times when I had the crash before testing this was also during the bosses "hockey puck" attack. The one that explodes with snow particles. So maybe it's just the particles from multiple water different Valby skills and the hockey pucks. I believe it's stacking water on top of each other that causes the freeze. All other settings are maxed and my effects is lowered, no issues firing off all skills. Will test not using all Valby skills and only spamming her "Clean Up" (V) skill at the highest settings.

Now I did get a huge hitch. But the game was able to recover from all the effects going on. This wasn't the case before. Also this only happened once in my 10 runs. And I usually crashed within 3 runs before. Hopefully this helps someone else.
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Date Posted: Aug 4, 2024 @ 10:38pm
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