Building for shields is worthless and i let my team down by attempting it.

[A Good Joe]

It doesn't even matter if your desc has good shield stats, HP and def is apparently the only way to go.
Why have the devs done this?

[Player Zer01]

Kyle is the only one you build for shield even else is HP then Def.

[jandraelune]

Originally posted by Player Zer01:

Kyle is the only one you build for shield even else is HP then Def.

Enzo is viable for shield as well, he has an ability that restores shield based on total shield. But Kyle his dmg is multiplied by total shield, not just his defense.

[Delphinus]

Full shield build is bad but not having any at all is bad too o.o

[A Good Joe]

Originally posted by Delphinus:

not having any at all is bad too o.o

I disagree, baring a few desc's like others have mentioned. Shields are worthless.
If you lose your shields in a boss fight you're not getting them back, the regen is so pathetically slow.

[Empukris]

The problem with shield is that its two very important stats are lock behind external component stats. That external component stats are also sharing with resistance and extra def and HP. So abandonning it completely means you have more external component stats that it can min max.

[SpacePirateKatz666]

Originally posted by A Good Joe:

It doesn't even matter if your desc has good shield stats, HP and def is apparently the only way to go.
Why have the devs done this?

Shields actually is pretty good for when you fighting those mini boss when you want to crack open the amorpheus material as at that time and moment at time you're strapped for resources, ammo, health and so on. rarely those things drop when you fight that mini boss. and most of the time the thing that save me is my shield, as all I need to do is hide and avoid the shots then the shield would starts to refill again.. then I try again. to kill the said mini boss.

Sure it is frustrating indeed but on that particular case that I mention above shield does have it's function and enzo also have supporting skills that also build around shield.

[JudgeTy]

You are missing some cool synergys with shields. You can spend HP to do more skill damage. You can spend hp to regain shields. For shields you also need IN COMBAT regen. you can get this affix on equipment. Let me guess you dont have any?

You still need a certain amount of HP unless you are ballsy and doing the 1 hp legendary. That one is fun with the bunny shield run skill power + mana + efficiency mp build. (unlimited shields unless you fall in the red).

Bunny, Enzo, Kyle all work shields really well. Bunny for the most part it's not necessary. Again you need in combat regen. (Enzo can do this + add in the hp cost + skill use to add shields.. endless shields...)

[jandraelune]

Originally posted by UllaVonFrapp:

Originally posted by A Good Joe:

It doesn't even matter if your desc has good shield stats, HP and def is apparently the only way to go.
Why have the devs done this?

Shields actually is pretty good for when you fighting those mini boss when you want to crack open the amorpheus material as at that time and moment at time you're strapped for resources, ammo, health and so on. rarely those things drop when you fight that mini boss. and most of the time the thing that save me is my shield, as all I need to do is hide and avoid the shots then the shield would starts to refill again.. then I try again. to kill the said mini boss.

Sure it is frustrating indeed but on that particular case that I mention above shield does have it's function and enzo also have supporting skills that also build around shield.

Halo players are MORE then use to this tactic.

[jandraelune]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

You are missing some cool synergys with shields. You can spend HP to do more skill damage. You can spend hp to regain shields. For shields you also need IN COMBAT regen. you can get this affix on equipment. Let me guess you dont have any?

You still need a certain amount of HP unless you are ballsy and doing the 1 hp legendary. That one is fun with the bunny shield run skill power + mana + efficiency mp build. (unlimited shields unless you fall in the red).

Bunny, Enzo, Kyle all work shields really well. Bunny for the most part it's not necessary. Again you need in combat regen. (Enzo can do this + add in the hp cost + skill use to add shields.. endless shields...)

Bunny can only do this with a module to change the function of the C ability.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by jandraelune:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

You are missing some cool synergys with shields. You can spend HP to do more skill damage. You can spend hp to regain shields. For shields you also need IN COMBAT regen. you can get this affix on equipment. Let me guess you dont have any?

You still need a certain amount of HP unless you are ballsy and doing the 1 hp legendary. That one is fun with the bunny shield run skill power + mana + efficiency mp build. (unlimited shields unless you fall in the red).

Bunny, Enzo, Kyle all work shields really well. Bunny for the most part it's not necessary. Again you need in combat regen. (Enzo can do this + add in the hp cost + skill use to add shields.. endless shields...)

Bunny can only do this with a module to change the function of the C ability.

I mentioned that. "Bunny shield run skill power"

[VeeGeeTea]

To the contrary, Shield is indeed especially important. The way that damage reductions go, it's Shield first, then DEF, then HP. Shield's job is to negate explosive damages, then DEF kicks in to trigger the damage absorption (up to 80%). When you see people getting one shot and went down, they didn't build up their shield.

[ceil]

Gley here. Tf are "shields"?

: )

[Mepho]

The single only use for shields I can figure from the top of my head is drone escort missions.
Which is weird in itself as a mechanic and those missions suck so much anyway.

Haven't played in a while, but day1 to when I quit the rule of thumb has been balancing HPs and DEF, shield didn't even factor.
HPs seemed to scale best by far, being linear with no DRs, while I couldn't really figure DEF out. By the end I was trying to keep it between 20 and 30k.

On my Ubunny farm build I think I have about 12k HPs and 27K DEF.
I had a "boss" loadout forgoing all the loot bonuses on externals going far higher (something like 20k hps and 50k def) but I only used that when doing new bosses as I was unsure what to expect.

The "farm build" was more than enough to do everything solo, invasions, incursions, HM bosses queuable solo etc. And quite easily as well.

[Sagara]

What would not fix but really help make shields mildly viable would be a module that adds to the shield regen so it can be extremely less completely ♥♥♥♥

[nostrovus]

If you get Luna to around 9k shields she will basically never die, mainly Noise Surge Luna. Every time she hits her enhanced she recovers half her shield. So if she never falls below 51% shield it'll always go back to 100% basically every 5-10 seconds.

That being said, it's not very viable at the moment because you're usually trading aoe distance for shield. With a tech reactor and additional damage to colossi, her gun can be viable for solo intercepts. Takes around 3 minutes though.