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TFD Youtuber shows Drop Rate and Run Math
Ryechews Games shows and explains drop rates and chances of getting items.

Both my previous drop rate calculations and math posts were done the same as the youtuber and his calculations pretty much proves as such. So to all the players who said i dont know math or probability, what do you think when a youtuber who is a TFD content maker uses the same kind on math?

My posts:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/discussions/0/4512128114431033654/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/discussions/0/6426157204240075839/

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djp9-hRV-tE
Last edited by WaggishBean13; Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:10pm
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Boink Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:18pm 
Nothing to do with being rigged as you support or claim.

He is suggesting the actual number of runs players need to make to get "guarantees".
Imbibitor Lunae Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
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You lost me at "youtuber"
StarExile Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
YouTube science bruh :MHRISE_Felyne:
Last edited by StarExile; Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:21pm
😎Astran😾 Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
All you need to know about RNG in this game is that I've got *only one* "6%" Ult descendant drop after 170 hours, when I specifically wanted 32% basic Luna drop :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
Irot Noot Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:26pm 
Zero people care if your math was or is right or not. You nor anyone else can actually prove anything whatsoever.
Kashra Fall Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:30pm 
I remember the last time I trusted a youtuber and their math. Still paying off the debts.
Irot Noot Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Irot Noot:
Zero people care if your math was or is right or not. You nor anyone else can actually prove anything whatsoever.
true, a lot of people are ignorant to the facts and just want to live in their own echo chamber most of the time and will deny the facts even if the facts are true
Thats just it.. You cant actually prove if your facts are facts or if they just validate your presupposed theories. Its possible you both are wrong..
Boink Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Boink:
Nothing to do with being rigged as you support or claim.

He is suggesting the actual number of runs players need to make to get "guarantees".
and that is pretty much the objective base of my posts and the associated math. The only things i argue against is that players seem to gave to do more runs than the math shows.

He shows the math on proper application. Didn't say a single thing about the values being rigged like you claim and using math.

There is a big difference when you are trying hard to apply math and use it for your own bias. Just the same as flat earthers claiming the Earth is flat because they are using math in specific scenarios.
Delerium75 Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:11am 
"A YouTuber said it, so it must be true."

The future is looking bright indeed.
Nikusui 😗 Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Boink:

He shows the math on proper application. Didn't say a single thing about the values being rigged like you claim and using math.

There is a big difference when you are trying hard to apply math and use it for your own bias. Just the same as flat earthers claiming the Earth is flat because they are using math in specific scenarios.
the part about the drops being untruthful is my personal opinion based on my experience with the game and supported by other players, and those experiences dont mesh with the math. In my posts i also show the math with no bias, i mention how the empirical data doesnt comply with the calculated data, and the creator shows that my math is right even though a lot of people said otherwise

Math has no bias, 1+1 will always equal 2 its how you process the math that can lead to issues, but the creator proves that my calculations were correct
What is your sample size and that youtuber's sample size? If you know math, you should know what is the law of large numbers. Only when the sample size is sufficiently large, will the distribution then tend to the "true" distribution.

That being said, not defending Nexon.
Last edited by Nikusui 😗; Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:19am
Paschendale Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:15am 
probability in the end is just theoretical and not realistic
Boink Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:20am 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Boink:

He shows the math on proper application. Didn't say a single thing about the values being rigged like you claim and using math.

There is a big difference when you are trying hard to apply math and use it for your own bias. Just the same as flat earthers claiming the Earth is flat because they are using math in specific scenarios.
the part about the drops being untruthful is my personal opinion based on my experience with the game and supported by other players, and those experiences dont mesh with the math. In my posts i also show the math with no bias, i mention how the empirical data doesnt comply with the calculated data, and the creator shows that my math is right even though a lot of people said otherwise

Math has no bias, 1+1 will always equal 2 its how you process the math that can lead to issues, but the creator proves that my calculations were correct

Do you really want me to show you proof of your bias?

When you mentioned you were collecting data sets for those with "bad luck". What data are you representing in a large number? The same data set you "PERSONALLY EXPERIENCE".

A bias data set.

It is the same as a lottery winner suggesting it is profitable because he won.
Setian Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:21am 
RNG doesn't care about math
Its random, stop trying to look smart while being dumb
Lamiosa Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:26am 
Vibes matters more to people than math or truth. You will see that even in Steam Forums that people who give hot arguments, but without facts get more attention and likes than actual a report with numbers and proofs.

I once reported a bug with evidence of numbers, which also got approved in the discord. In Steam Forum I only got 1 clown for it and 5 posts for the topic. So people also do not value if someone figures out something.
m99noble Aug 1, 2024 @ 4:46am 
OP malding hard in the forums, nice.
Keep malding my guy, also learn to math.
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