Luna gives you Myopia.

[Ultraman Fudoshina]

So i am currently playing Luna at lvl 22 and she is one different cookie to eat. I have to focus my eyes on the dance counter to get the proper sequence while avoiding all the evil monster shooting at me or slicing my booty. Kind hard to play solo because i am looking at the counter more than the fight itself. What do you guys say about the new Luna chick?

[feline]

you pervert - _ - .

[TemplarGFX]

Originally posted by thenameless:

You mean this Mod locked behind Gluttony,the Boss 99% of playerbase wipe?
The Mods is not a 100% Drop so you need to kill him 50x or more to get it. Good Luck.

or you know you could do it the easy way and farm lower level hard bosses for transcendent mods and then combine them to get it ;)

[Geardo]

Originally posted by Fudoshina:

Originally posted by Geardo:

You have to be decent at games like BPM to like Luna in my view

Well if only a small percentage of the population can be decent then not enough people will make a purchase on a dead character. So its Nexons loss. Business people will not like, not earning a profit.

Actually it is not really a loss, a lot of games including shooters have characters that are unpopular and need high skill
Those games still go on and make profit proving this argument wrong

[Geist]

Since they messed Gley up Luna gun with a similar build can do the same single shot damage as Massacre. But of course you lack the fire rate and infinite ammo. Fighting Obstructer with her is oddly entertaining.

[spyke2009]

Originally posted by T0b1maru:

Originally posted by spyke2009:

No, nice try but no dice. I'm a support main, Yujin since day 1 of release to be precise. So drop the adorable cope and assumptions.

I'm well aware of the in-baked limitations of support in terms of a huge amount of their contribution in damage and such, being weighted with the assumption of usage of passionate sponsor and its buffs in mind. Nor do I in any expect to be able to one shot a boss solo on a support outside of extreme outliers. That's the strengths of OTHER types of descendants and I'm not really interested in those things all that much.

So, you midwit tier, overly assumptive scrub. why don't you take a breath, then wind your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ neck in?

Might be a great idea right about now cupcake...

That out of the way. What I'm saying is what players, other SUPPORT players even are saying. That her skills scaling off bizarre things like "max MP" is hilarious and that her "gimmick" is annoying and outright atrocious in a fast paced looter shooter, at least without something INSANE as a payoff in a universal sense for having to interact with it.

In luna's case that's 100% cooldown reduction/reset from her last ability right? That's the primo thing you can give your team that is impactful? Right?

Cool, but most top tier builds have that stacked out the gills anyways and don't need it... Ulti lepics just die and reset, to get their mp and cooldowns back on collosi nuke runs/farms like Frostwalker also.

WHAT is it, that luna is offering up here, in any tangible sense to the team? Aside from raw skill power in tiny amounts, probably additive to make it worse, and skill crit. Which is something that ONE descendant (viessa) might appreciate in and outside nuke strats. The reason being, because of how it's all based on tiny base values. What about the things she offers in general, is ALL that relevant? considering the nuisance you have to interact with, in order to even do it?

Is it MP restoration perhaps? It's an interesting concept in theory, but hardly an issue for endgame builds. So, I'm genuinely asking people, what IS the point of her?

Instead of rational answers, that fill me in on something I and others are potentially just not understanding or seeing due to not having her hands on yet. Which I could understand if there was any real rational substance and information to what's being said.

All I and others seem to be getting as a response, is vague salty snark and hilarious nonsense, from people like you. It's as if someone urinated in your cereal.

And after that introduction, I hope you finished the bowl. <3

See, you just miss me with that crap, either you make a point and add some informative points of substance more importantly. Something that makes for a compelling and fair case that she's NOT a total disaster AS a support character. Because no one should be expecting a "DPS GO BRRR" outcome from her either, and you start making actual sense.

OR you can just stop responding. BEFORE you humiliate yourself further.

"not understanding or seeing due to not having her hands on yet"
So you're just talking out of your ass? Writing a short essay on how your feelings are hurt.

But ok.

- Her second skill, the one that does a ability increase buff, states "skill power increase". Not "skill power modifier +%", not "skill power +%".
It's flat skill power based on your map MP x3.5 or x7.5, depending on if it's enhanced or not, added on their reactor.
With no investment that's almost a flat 10% slapped on top their reactor. Meaning that's a huge buff with other descendant's mods that do % increases.
With only minimal investment you can get roughly 25 to 50% of ability power to their reactor for the short duration's.
Not really something to sneeze at considering there's a fair amount of characters using SKILLS.

- Her second skill is indeed "just an mp regen" and the enhanced version adds resource cost deduction of more than 50%. Allowing parties to use their skills more. Equalling more DPS.
Especially handy in Intercepts. Saying it's absolutely useless is the equivalent of saying Enzo giving ammo is useless. Because hur durr ammo is never a problem either right?

- You at least seem to grasp what cooldown does. So i'll not bother there.

Her kit revolves around switching between 2 aura's to maximise the uptime of buffs and to quickly gain max inspiration. That said there's probably a few ways to play her. Dunno cuz i haven't unlocked any of her unique mods yet.

So If you're clueless as to why people react snarky. It's because lazy people like you having no clue how something works, yet complain everywhere.
You're too lazy to use your brain so you just decide to nag and complain something is ♥♥♥♥. All the while you have no understanding how it works untill you see someone post a video of a "broken build".

The descendant just release for christ sake..

Hahaha I only have one feeling and it ain't hurt, certainly not by you I'll grant you one thing tough, that if the skillpower buff ain't additive, that's a welcome bonus to her kit. WF makes that mistake commonly and it is always hilarious to me, when the games 11 years old and they should know better. But TFD has made errors in that manner before, though they do seem to get around to correcting them eventually. Anyways...

Here's the thing though... what I really don't get is... why the obvious deception?

As a display of negative attitude it's almost as if someone was about to lead others inadvertently to your spicy magazine collection and must be deterred at all costs. It's actually what made me suspicious of this. She's gonna be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in a ton of content that the game is comprised of... clearly. That is unless we fail to factor in a specific well known aspect of the game and how it currently is in the meta-game.

So I'll say it plainly. You DO know you COULD have just been honest. If you'd just said she's simply been earmarked by players as a perfect buffbot companion for ultimate lepics when boss cheesing in a two man premade?

I mean that's what it IS gonna be right? It hardly takes a genius to put two and two together. If she's being knee jerk defended because she's rubbish in tons of content like this, that also usually hints that there's somewhere she'll shine. Albeit only in a stupidly limited but highly effective way.

Around and around in circles we go, the stage changes but sadly the types of actors, simply do not.

Now IF you'd be SO kind and perhaps uncharacteristically gentlemanly, to in the very least hand me a wet rag to clean my f'n leg off, seen as you just flat out urinated on it. All the while trying to tell me that the oddly odorous liquid now running down my leg, was merely the consequence of a warm rainy summer shower combined with urban pollution...

/facepalm

[Ultraman Fudoshina]

Originally posted by T0b1maru:

Luna is actually awesome. It's okay if you suck/don't understand/don't like playing her. But her gameplay loop is actually fun and engaging.
The only comment you can make is that her fire rhythms aren't matching up well enough with the song's she's playing. But they're pretty lenient when it comes to the timing.

And people seem to forget she's a support character. Not meant to play solo or have 12 mil dps.
She fits into any party. She can give DPS boosts to AOE farmers or keep resetting cooldowns for Gleys during boss runs.

But yeah if you're only gripe is her auto aim shooting mechanics being hard. Then get gud.

' getting gud ' .......no wonder you live in a basement.

[Ultraman Fudoshina]

Originally posted by spyke2009:

Originally posted by T0b1maru:

Some aspect or design people are missing? If people are too mentally handicapped to look at how skill-sets work then probably yes.
If you're complaining about DPS you lack the mental capacity to read what the buffs do.
Her kit is extremely powerful in a party. And absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ solo.

So is that the problem? Not able to see numbers go BRRRR and then assuming a character is ♥♥♥♥.

If that's the case, then just play something you like instead of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on something you don't understand.

No, nice try but no dice. I'm a support main, Yujin since day 1 of release to be precise. So drop the adorable cope and assumptions.

I'm well aware of the in-baked limitations of support in terms of a huge amount of their contribution in damage and such, being weighted with the assumption of usage of passionate sponsor and its buffs in mind. Nor do I in any expect to be able to one shot a boss solo on a support outside of extreme outliers. That's the strengths of OTHER types of descendants and I'm not really interested in those things all that much.

So, you midwit tier, overly assumptive scrub. why don't you take a breath, then wind your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ neck in?

Might be a great idea right about now cupcake...

That out of the way. What I'm saying is what players, other SUPPORT players even are saying. That her skills scaling off bizarre things like "max MP" is hilarious and that her "gimmick" is annoying and outright atrocious in a fast paced looter shooter, at least without something INSANE as a payoff in a universal sense for having to interact with it.

In luna's case that's 100% cooldown reduction/reset from her last ability right? That's the primo thing you can give your team that is impactful? Right?

Cool, but most top tier builds have that stacked out the gills anyways and don't need it... Ulti lepics just die and reset, to get their mp and cooldowns back on collosi nuke runs/farms like Frostwalker also.

WHAT is it, that luna is offering up here, in any tangible sense to the team? Aside from raw skill power in tiny amounts, probably additive to make it worse, and skill crit. Which is something that ONE descendant (viessa) might appreciate in and outside nuke strats. The reason being, because of how it's all based on tiny base values. What about the things she offers in general, is ALL that relevant? considering the nuisance you have to interact with, in order to even do it?

Is it MP restoration perhaps? It's an interesting concept in theory, but hardly an issue for endgame builds. So, I'm genuinely asking people, what IS the point of her?

Instead of rational answers, that fill me in on something I and others are potentially just not understanding or seeing due to not having her hands on yet. Which I could understand if there was any real rational substance and information to what's being said.

All I and others seem to be getting as a response, is vague salty snark and hilarious nonsense, from people like you. It's as if someone urinated in your cereal.

And after that introduction, I hope you finished the bowl. <3

See, you just miss me with that crap, either you make a point and add some informative points of substance more importantly. Something that makes for a compelling and fair case that she's NOT a total disaster AS a support character. Because no one should be expecting a "DPS GO BRRR" outcome from her either, and you start making actual sense.

OR you can just stop responding. BEFORE you humiliate yourself further.

Like i said if she can only be played by a small percentage of people then there wont be any return investment for Nexon. They don't care how good you are in using their product they want people who can buy any product associated with Luna in the future. But if nobody plays her because she can only be played by a minuscule number of people then they lost their investment. Being ' gud ' in the game does not matter to Nexon. Get it now kid?

[Omnistorm]

All I have to say is this isn't a rhythmic shooter and the character forces people into tunnel vision. It's overall completely bad design for a looter shooter. If this was a rhythmic VR shooter i'd say otherwise but its not. It's lazy ass game design in my opinion and shes not even close to say Warframe's Octavia. The reason it works in warframe is because of the Mandachord and you can control the rhythm.

The fact that they put a rhythmic mechanic into a non rhythmic shooter really makes me question what the devs are doing and what they have planned.

I fully believe she will always be probably the least played character unless she gets a rework which in my opinion needs to happen.

You need to be shooting not playing guitar hero.

[Ultraman Fudoshina]

Originally posted by Omnistorm:

All I have to say is this isn't a rhythmic shooter and the character forces people into tunnel vision. It's overall completely bad design for a looter shooter. If this was a rhythmic VR shooter i'd say otherwise but its not. It's lazy ass game design in my opinion and shes not even close to say Warframe's Octavia. The reason it works in warframe is because of the Mandachord and you can control the rhythm.

The fact that they put a rhythmic mechanic into a non rhythmic shooter really makes me question what the devs are doing and what they have planned.

I fully believe she will always be probably the least played character unless she gets a rework which in my opinion needs to happen.

You need to be shooting not playing guitar hero.

Yes. Even if i just play support the mobs make me eat their shots especially the de-buffs. Maybe there is something good somewhere but for now this is not the way to go for a shooting game.

[Harry.Taco]

I took a look at Luna and her Kit. Watched a couple videos. Luna will not be a character in my stable. Too Much Work for Me. I will let others who like the grind stone use her. I like Ultimate Viessa. Attacked by a swarm of mobs? No Problem, blast them to smitherenes!
And hey, Viessa actually wears clothing. Not counting the bikini top and thong that just came out.

[eZudo]

I mean, it's fair if you don't like her playstyle, but to me she has quite the refreshing and actually engaging playstyle that actually requires some attention instead of activating your 3 with bunny and just running. I'm using her AoE DPS form quite a lot to farm now.

[0xedd]

BPM was popular. And you fought more than 1 monster at a time. So, the mechanic is fine. Let the devs be creative. You don't have to top the DPS meters. The sky won't fall down. It's cool to have such a twist in an, otherwise, very familiar game.