What an amazing drop system. Genius work, Nexon

[THEUNREALGHOST]

So basically I need Ultimate Lepic Spiral Catalyst Blueprint, as I have everything for Ultimate Lepic expect this. I ran outpost for Amorphous Material 006 and Void Fusion Reactor Battles (seriously, pain in the back for shards) and here's what I got even when the Shape Stabilizers were on (with Drop chances) :
38% - 11 Restored Relic Polymer Syncytium Blueprint,
38% - 9 Valby Code,
3% - 3 Energy Activator Blueprint,
15% - 3 Smithereens Blueprint,
and after 26 Battles, 6% - 1 Ultimate Lepic Spiral Catalyst Blueprint

This happened to me with Sharen for that Asylum drop, and also happening for Blair (more than 30 spec-ops completed for Blair Materials but I didn't unlock him yet)

THIS IS NOT BASED ON LUCK, THIS IS MADNESS
Even Roulette has better odds than this!!

[Dark Traveler]

Trying to get Freyna's Cells... 20% drop chance my *** been doing it for three days... Pretty close to quitting.

I'm down for a good grind but Three days for one item is utterly ridiculous, especially if it's for a quest.

100% Agree they need a drop re-work or a new system.

[Master Blaster]

Ok Im gonna point out something, just cause its 20% drop chance that still means you have 80% chance of not getting it, the odds are ALWAYS stacked against you, with any part be prepared with at least 30-40 of the pattern you need if you want to do this as effciently as possible, It only took me a day to get everything I needed for Ultimate Lepic but thats because I did an insane amount of grinding for patterns for other things, I doubt they will rework the drop rate system, but maybe they will add a pity system to the game where it tallies how much you've tried with a certain pattern and increase the chances of getting an item you haven't yet on said pattern, so if would increase the chances by .08 or something each time you open a pattern.

[Skuall]

79.98645% of probabilities at 26 trys. 20% of people don't get with this number of trys. Learn maths, young man.

[k !]

Git Gud

[Grimzy]

I mean, you got 1, you wont need any more of it.

[Wehzy]

Originally posted by Dark Traveler:

Trying to get Freyna's Cells... 20% drop chance my *** been doing it for three days... Pretty close to quitting.

I'm down for a good grind but Three days for one item is utterly ridiculous, especially if it's for a quest.

100% Agree they need a drop re-work or a new system.

It took me like 15h to get freyna cells and im not even kidding. Now im trying to farm ult bunny and its x500 times worse.

I really love the game but the grind is inhuman.
I did play A LOT of MMO's back in the day like AION, ArchAge, BDO, Blade and soul and TERA. And NONE Of those mmo's had such ridiculous drop rates.

At least in most MMO's if you do dungeon you GET what you need, all you gotta do is be lucky and get a got roll.

I wish this game would use a roll system like in WoW, TERA or FF14 instead of drop chance.
20% = 2%

[Dark Traveler]

Your input is irrelevant it still needs a re-work or an overhaul.

I want to play a game not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gambling gatcha. Think i'm out of this game, and the toxic ass fan boy defenders. Toodles. Heading back to Warframe where at least you have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chance to get what you want and it doesn't take a week to do it.

[THEUNREALGHOST]

I agree, But see what I pointed out in my discussion. I got 3 energy activator blueprint, which is just 3% out of 100%, right? so that should be super rare than 6% Ultimate Lepic Spiral Catalyst Blueprint, but i Got 3 of EA while i got 1 of Spiral Catalyst. Similarly, it took me a day for me to get all of Ultimate Lepic's Materials with 25+ patters to get each Blueprint (that's 75 in total), but that's not the case here, is it? I agree to your last point, If that happens, then at least people like me don't have to bash our head and wait for our time

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Skuall:

79.98645% of probabilities at 26 trys. 20% of people don't get with this number of trys. Learn maths, young man.

That's not how probability works, You keep looking at it from an additive view point. The probability is the same every time, 1 run, 20 runs, 100 runs, it doesn't matter. Things will drop eventually, it's best not to dwell on it, change your farming and do different things otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts.

[OddyNuff]

I've been doing the asylum mission over 20 times now, and the sharen drop is supposed to have a 20% drop rate lol

[Artemis]

Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:

Originally posted by Artemis:

That's not how probability works, You keep looking at it from an additive view point. The probability is the same every time, 1 run, 20 runs, 100 runs, it doesn't matter. Things will drop eventually, it's best not to dwell on it, change your farming and do different things otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts.

While probability stays the same, the more you run activity the more likely you are to get the item

obviously lol

[jvjd]

You got three energy activators gratz

[k !]

Originally posted by Dark Traveler:

Trying to get Freyna's Cells... 20% drop chance my *** been doing it for three days... Pretty close to quitting.

I'm down for a good grind but Three days for one item is utterly ridiculous, especially if it's for a quest.

100% Agree they need a drop re-work or a new system.

Yeah that's what happens when you play for an hour a day and call it farming for 3 days.
We got OP crying about drop rates with less than 100 hours hahaha

[alan0n]

I got three 15% catalyst pieces in a row. Obviously its not 15% it must be 100%.

[fx!]

Originally posted by THEUNREALGHOST:

I agree, But see what I pointed out in my discussion. I got 3 energy activator blueprint, which is just 3% out of 100%, right? so that should be super rare than 6% Ultimate Lepic Spiral Catalyst Blueprint, but i Got 3 of EA while i got 1 of Spiral Catalyst. Similarly, it took me a day for me to get all of Ultimate Lepic's Materials with 25+ patters to get each Blueprint (that's 75 in total), but that's not the case here, is it? I agree to your last point, If that happens, then at least people like me don't have to bash our head and wait for our time

Yep, same experience. The rare items almost always came in multiples, when it dropped, withing a short amount of rolls. For example I got two Ult Ajax codes in a row ... twice, in about 6-7 rolls.

I no longer try to farm exclusively for a specific item from a single amorph and instead mix different activities and open amorphs in smaller batches. It is a tinfoil hat territory for sure, but I had better luck this way getting closer to advertised drop rates. That said, I just might have got extremely lucky/unlucky couple of times, this kind of stuff is very hard to prove.