The First Descendant

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Teal V2 Jul 28, 2024 @ 10:35pm
Afterglow Sword, the disappointment
After maxing it out, I had to realize its unique ability does not evolve at all.
All it gets is around 10% crit rate, fire rate goes to -10% and gains additional range.

You can just use it in its level 1 form to have its -close to- full potential.

Such a disappointment...
(The weapon strength is not questioned here, just its leveling.

King's Guard next. Hope it will be better.
Last edited by Teal V2; Jul 28, 2024 @ 10:36pm
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vishuspuss Jul 28, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Teal V2:
After maxing it out, I had to realize its unique ability does not evolve at all.
All it gets is around 10% crit rate, fire rate goes to -10% and gains additional range.

You can just use it in its level 1 form to have its -close to- full potential.

Such a disappointment...
(The weapon strength is not questioned here, just its leveling.

King's Guard next. Hope it will be better.
hey someone building kings guard. i am too.

SUPER hard to find any info about it!

soooo i look at the tickrate that the ummm thingy it creates does damage. while the damage only scales up 6%, it hits every .11 seconds.

soooo 9 hits every second? thats a lot of damage
Boss Jul 28, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
I mean, I'll always take 10% crit rate improvement.

Try the handcannon. Goes from 85 consumed mana to restore 10% shields, to 65 mana for 30% shields.

Like, actual Lmao.
Teal V2 Jul 28, 2024 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
hey someone building kings guard. i am too.

SUPER hard to find any info about it!

soooo i look at the tickrate that the ummm thingy it creates does damage. while the damage only scales up 6%, it hits every .11 seconds.

soooo 9 hits every second? thats a lot of damage

Cool!
Can't wait to see it in action!
My research are all occupied with ultimate lepic parts and activator and a jereby part.. so nothing to do for a day there...

But it is the perfect time to farm 5 blueprints of every King Guard parts.

Heeeeey Shaaaaaareeeeeeeeeeen!
Last edited by Teal V2; Jul 28, 2024 @ 11:03pm
Teal V2 Jul 28, 2024 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Boss:
I mean, I'll always take 10% crit rate improvement.

Try the handcannon. Goes from 85 consumed mana to restore 10% shields, to 65 mana for 30% shields.

Like, actual Lmao.

That is what I miss from Afterglow Sword. Why the unique ability is not evolving at all?
That's such a cool upgrade you have written there, wow.
vishuspuss Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by Teal V2:
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
hey someone building kings guard. i am too.

SUPER hard to find any info about it!

soooo i look at the tickrate that the ummm thingy it creates does damage. while the damage only scales up 6%, it hits every .11 seconds.

soooo 9 hits every second? thats a lot of damage

Cool!
Can't wait to see it in action!
My research are all occupied with ultimate lepic parts and activator and a jereby part.. so nothing to do for a day there...

But it is the perfect time to farm 5 blueprints of every King Guard parts.

Heeeeey Shaaaaaareeeeeeeeeeen!

hey just a heads up concerning king's guard:

ehhhhhhhh i dont wanna spoil it for ya

its... not good. the firearm 6% damage isnt +, its x so the damage is horrible on the special ability
Last edited by vishuspuss; Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:14am
Teal V2 Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
hey just a heads up concerning king's guard:

ehhhhhhhh i dont wanna spoil it for ya

its... not good. the firearm 6% damage isnt +, its x so the damage is horrible on the special ability

Whew..
This is quite the disappointment, again.
Guessed it would be fun to pair it with Jayber, but if the weapon isn't going to be better even with upgrades, then it does not worth the effort at all.

Maybe it gets a buff a time..
vishuspuss Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:26am 
Originally posted by Teal V2:
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
hey just a heads up concerning king's guard:

ehhhhhhhh i dont wanna spoil it for ya

its... not good. the firearm 6% damage isnt +, its x so the damage is horrible on the special ability

Whew..
This is quite the disappointment, again.
Guessed it would be fun to pair it with Jayber, but if the weapon isn't going to be better even with upgrades, then it does not worth the effort at all.

Maybe it gets a buff a time..
it would be pretty decent if we could get debuff modules on weapons... its really good at spamming? im really hoping debuff mods are coming in the future.
vishuspuss Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:33am 
oh one more thing: gregs rifle is getting "changed" next patch in a day or two. just thought you might like to know. its not that bad of a weapon currently, be interesting to see what they do to it

jic you didnt know
Last edited by vishuspuss; Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:33am
xep Jul 30, 2024 @ 2:36am 
10% crit sounds like a lot though!
Teal V2 Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
oh one more thing: gregs rifle is getting "changed" next patch in a day or two. just thought you might like to know. its not that bad of a weapon currently, be interesting to see what they do to it

jic you didnt know

Yeah, I heard of it.

If you can bombard the hell out of enemies, it will be one of the most fun weapons in the game for sure.

Imagine the artillery shower if it had like 30%~ chance to trigger for every bullet.
It would be incredible.
Taiji Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by Boss:
I mean, I'll always take 10% crit rate improvement.

Try the handcannon. Goes from 85 consumed mana to restore 10% shields, to 65 mana for 30% shields.

Like, actual Lmao.
Don't we use it for the -30% def, though?
nostrovus Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by Teal V2:
After maxing it out, I had to realize its unique ability does not evolve at all.
All it gets is around 10% crit rate, fire rate goes to -10% and gains additional range.

You can just use it in its level 1 form to have its -close to- full potential.

Such a disappointment...
(The weapon strength is not questioned here, just its leveling.

King's Guard next. Hope it will be better.

which character are you using it with?
Teal V2 Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by nostrovus:
which character are you using it with?

I think the leveling bonus of the weapon does not change by character.

I use it on Enzo, to answer the question.
HerbertWess Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:57am 
I made the Kingsguard, still working on enhancing the unique ability. It could use a buff indeed. I haven't looked at other beam weapons much tbh, but if they are like King's Guard, then they are in a really weird place.

Weapon does not excel in either crit or weak point. It does have a flat piercing value of 10%, which on paper sounds great, until you realize no modules exist that enhance piercing. It is really odd, as there are special round specific mods like the one that improves the beam buildup. You need to slap whatever you can to expand the magazines anyways. I am still building it up so in theory firing fiesta should work well (i hope). OH, and i would love to know why a weapon that in theory has no recoil STILL moves upwards while keeping the beam on (tested in lab, with/without action and reaction and even vibration absorption maxed. You still get a bit of recoil, ehm wtf...)

Now the unique... I know it's at base lvl, so i don't expect big numbers out of the blue, but jesus is this clunky.... You gotta aim and it will outline a sort of pillar shaped structure that once hit will spread a sort of aoe tick effect on surrounding enemies. To begin with, this cannot be generated unless you target some ground. And aoe isn't terribly big (maybe enhancing this will improve, idk). If it tagged the enemy you hit and spread the ticks it would make more sense. As it is now, Thunder Cage does a better job at mob control.

I am trying to see if it works as a pure elemental beam with chill, which at least would stop mobs enough to eat the aoe effect and see how it goes. But i finished building Enduring Legacy, and even without a reactor slapped to it plus modding it rocks so much more than King's Guard, it is baffling
Boink Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:57am 
This beast never failed me with Sharen or Gley

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299665802

What does your values look like and modules?

Also, a lot of colossi do have crit resist and some projectile values like Pyromaniac.
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