is piercing light kinda garbage compared to afterglow ?

[p00se2]

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build guides say it hits harder than afterglow
but i do like 35% the damage they do

wat

[jandraelune]

Piercing Light is for the first hit. Afterglow is for the following hit. Both serve a use.

[AbyssWanderer]

Based on my tests Piercing Light deals more Crit DMG when it crits(due to higher base weapon DMG compensating for the lower CRIT DMG modifier) and Weak Point DMG especially Weak Point being much harder hits with my build compared to Afterglow Sword with the exact same build. This is one shot tests when they crits and hits weak points.

My Piercing Light has 72% Crit Chance in the W screen in inventory,

Afterglow Sword pushing 91% crit rate(W screen) not including another 12.5% from the Unique Ability it has vs Colossus and Commanders, which I am unsure if that goes up with the weapon Unique Ability Upgrades because I am too lazy to farm more to test, if it does increase then reaching 100% Crit rate is possible but I am unsure if that 12.5% is additive on top of the existing 91% or it based on the 50% Crit Rate base stats which means 6.5% more Crit Rate.

Afterglow Sword does have higher crit rate so you get more frequent crits. So that could potentially mean higher DPS them more you shoot. Depends on your build yet again. There is also the RNG when it comes to hit chance, if you played XCOM games then you know lol.

Piercing Light also has the benefit of being able to cleanse Colossus buffs, specific buff icons by their health bars which I have no idea what they actually do aside from buffing the Colossus. If someone knows how to check this in game please let me know, thanks in advance.

Afterglow Sword Unique Ability called Death Propagation, you'll need to build stacks to get higher DMG per shot, so consistent weak point hits.

Both have upsides and downsides as you can see. Both of them hit like a truck anyway lol. Depends on what type of player you are and your Gley build if you're using it for her.

[p00se2]

what iv seen today
->
after glow used on blair
single first shot takes off fully shields and about half of devourer HP
followed by multiple devourer kills ending after 5 seconds


from my testing with the same mods on my piercing light
im always shooting first shot after reloading and from stealth on sharen
iv managed to take out the shields ONCE (single shot )

and that happened after i thought the gun is bugged and i unequipped it and put it back into the slot

info screen shots 73% crit rate
i swap strengthen first shot / weak point expansion here and there


damage difference this huge ?how

[AbyssWanderer]

Originally posted by p00se2:

what iv seen today
->
after glow used on blair
single first shot takes off fully shields and about half of devourer HP
followed by multiple devourer kills ending after 5 seconds


from my testing with the same mods on my piercing light
im always shooting first shot after reloading and from stealth on sharen
iv managed to take out the shields ONCE (single shot )

and that happened after i thought the gun is bugged and i unequipped it and put it back into the slot

info screen shots 73% crit rate
i swap strengthen first shot / weak point expansion here and there


damage difference this huge ?how

They use an exploit most probably. So do they switch to another build and then back mid fight? This gives them more DMG than intended. The Gley Build that does 41Mil DMG build in one shot does the same and it should be patched soon.

[p00se2]

Originally posted by AbyssWanderer:

They use an exploit most probably. So do they switch to another build and then back mid fight? This gives them more DMG than intended. The Gley Build that does 41Mil DMG build in one shot does the same and it should be patched soon.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2206955351

@ 3 hours 6 minutes 56 seconds

more kills after
the next one is a 2 shot @ 3 hours 8 minutes 43 seconds

shield + 50% HP gone

[Boss]

It won't be patched. The Gley Build that does 41 million damages swaps to the previous build PURELY for the sake of generating resources.

It would be ridiculous to patch out, and would artificially punish her whereas other characters (like bunny) do not lose resources on page swapping.

[AbyssWanderer]

Originally posted by p00se2:

Originally posted by AbyssWanderer:

They use an exploit most probably. So do they switch to another build and then back mid fight? This gives them more DMG than intended. The Gley Build that does 41Mil DMG build in one shot does the same and it should be patched soon.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2206955351

@ 3 hours 6 minutes 56 seconds

more kills after
the next one is a 2 shot @ 3 hours 8 minutes 43 seconds

shield + 50% HP gone

I am unsure then. I am beat on this one. I see the streamer is not using the exploit. They are using Blair correct? If you can find out see if they are using the Backdraft Transdescedent Module? It increases weak point and firearm attack and is the only reason why I think it hits much harder than yours with the same build on the guns. Unless I am wrong which is probably highly likely the case these days. You sure Piercing Light is Criting?

[p00se2]

Originally posted by AbyssWanderer:

I am unsure then. I am beat on this one. I see the streamer is not using the exploit. They are using Blair correct? If you can find out see if they are using the Backdraft Transdescedent Module? It increases weak point and firearm attack and is the only reason why I think it hits much harder than yours with the same build on the guns. Unless I am wrong which is probably highly likely the case these days. You sure Piercing Light is Criting?

yes they are using blair
ill take a look at the mod
and try to catch the streamer tomorrow so i can ask them

according to my damage number colors i should crit
but then again - as said above
i only managed to take out devourer shields once after many many tests
maybe that was the only ever real crit ?
(and that happened after removing the weapon from slot and putting it because i thought something is bugged )


im extremely confused about the damage difference

[AbyssWanderer]

Originally posted by Boss:

It won't be patched. The Gley Build that does 41 million damages swaps to the previous build PURELY for the sake of generating resources.

It would be ridiculous to patch out, and would artificially punish her whereas other characters (like bunny) do not lose resources on page swapping.

Well they are going to patch it out for everyone in the game. She is still going to do that much DMG, I am also unsure if my 41 million DMG number is correct?

"Recently, we saw a video in the community where the Colossus was defeated more quickly through module switching. If we had a bit more time, we would have liked to include a fix for this in Hotfix 1.0.3, but unfortunately, it didn't make it into this update.
The development team does not want module switching to become another strategy. This method makes combat tedious and does not fit well with the run-and-gun playstyle. The Dev team wants skills, weapons, modules, and external components to be part of the strategy. We hope that in-depth build research will progress, but strategies requiring inconvenient control are not what the development team aims for."

[Boss]

As I said, it won't happen. There's a lot of builds, a lot of module switching. Certain exploits may, indeed, occur. Gley's, however, is here to stay.

Because, again, that'd imply we'd see resources end up dumped on all characters on module swap. That's not happening. The uproar would be legendary.

[CrazyRulez]

Originally posted by Boss:

As I said, it won't happen. There's a lot of builds, a lot of module switching. Certain exploits may, indeed, occur. Gley's, however, is here to stay.

Because, again, that'd imply we'd see resources end up dumped on all characters on module swap. That's not happening. The uproar would be legendary.

They already said that they ll patch out switching modules during colossi fights.

[Boink]

Just for players who don't know there are Descendant modules that add Firearm % damage. I don't see a crit rate module yet.

This module is hard to get.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3296542716

[Danyel]

Originally posted by Boss:

It won't be patched. The Gley Build that does 41 million damages swaps to the previous build PURELY for the sake of generating resources.

It would be ridiculous to patch out, and would artificially punish her whereas other characters (like bunny) do not lose resources on page swapping.

Yes it will nexon clearly said this wasn't intended and they are going to stop this cause they don't want peeps switching builds mid fight to be a meta.

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Boss:

It won't be patched. The Gley Build that does 41 million damages swaps to the previous build PURELY for the sake of generating resources.

It would be ridiculous to patch out, and would artificially punish her whereas other characters (like bunny) do not lose resources on page swapping.

If you are talking about midfight module swapping, they already announced they will be changing that.

[Drogoran]

piercing light exist for its buff removal, it is inferior/equal to afterglow in all other ways

thats not saying it's bad you can still do all content with it