External Components Question

[Lindo [EN][ES]]

Is it possible to find any External Component with HP, DEF, and Shield? I'm looking for one with all 3 attributes and I can't find, always with up to 2 of those. By the way, in your opinion, which combinations do you think it's better? I'm going DEF enough to reach 15k, HP enough to reach 10k, everything else on Shield.

Edit:

PRIMARY BONUS (Golden/Ultimate)

Power:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 206
 
Sensor:
HP: 646
DEF: 2385
Shield: 275

Memory:
HP: 484
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275

Processor:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275


Now I need to know what is the max secondary bonus of each, and I can start to farm precisely what I want for each Descendant that I care about =)

[Mistfox]

I prefer looking for sets, it's more certain to give you bonuses and you can swap in others of the same set when you find one better without losing basic function in the first place. It helps a lot better to see the sets as the main stat and the random ones as the optional secondaries.

[[HdF] Almut Grete]

I think not.
They are overall limited on what they can roll at all (e.g. processors will never roll HP or DEF aside from their main stat) and they also use some kind of hidden value for rolls. If you compare items of the same category that rolled lets say DEF when already having DEF as main stat, the value for the roll changes not only on quality and slot, but also on what quality the other roll had. You might find the value for an legendary roll lower, because the second roll is also legendary (kind of like a point system for the items value).

You should be able to get the 15k DEF and 10k HP easily though. Try violett/epic set items for +25% DEF bonus on with both having one roll on HP (legendary). For shield get a shield roll on the processor and for more shield with a little HP you can use a sensor with HP as main stat.

[Mordtziel]

Each component can have a main stat of: HP, DEF, or Shield
Auxiliary Power can have a substat of HP
Support Memory can have a substat of DEF
Support Processor can have a substat of Shield
You can not have all 3 on one piece.

My general recommendation at this point is HP base stat on Auxiliary Power, Recon, and Processor. DEF main stat on Memory. HP substat on Auxiliary Power. HP Recovery Modifier and MP Recovery in Combat substats on Recon. Def and MP Recovery Modifier substats on Memory. Literally whatever substats on Processors, they're all garbage.
If you want a baseline of resistances, Power can have Fire, Recon can have Chill, Memory can have Electric, and Processor can have toxic. But it's mostly whatever, they'll give you like 10% damage reduction I guess.

[Pidgeot]

From what I've seen from drops, no. You can't get all 3 of those stats on a single External Component.

All external components can have HP, Defense or Shield as their main stat. Then the substats you can get depend on the specific component.

Auxillary Power can get Max HP substat.

Sensor can get Max MP substat.

Memory can get DEF substat.

Processor can get Max Shield substat,

[vishuspuss]

Originally posted by Nego Lindo EN:

Is it possible to find any External Component with HP, DEF, and Shield? I'm looking for one with all 3 attributes and I can't find, always with up to 2 of those. By the way, in your opinion, which combinations do you think it's better? I'm going DEF enough to reach 15k, HP enough to reach 10k, everything else on Shield.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kgM2divC6vVxstyaMjzvAXKBjL8T5sqPbqVPNE_6Miw/edit?gid=647405651#gid=647405651

[TemplarGFX]

Any component can have HP, DEF or SHIELD as its primary stat

Power Component can get Max HP as an option
Sensor Component can get Max MP as an option
Memory Component can get Max DEF as an option
Processor Component can get Max SHIELD as an option

[vishuspuss]

set gold pieces are set to the main stat what it is. can still get the same sub-stat rolls

regular gold pieces have higher main stat value as well?

[TemplarGFX]

Originally posted by vishuspuss:

set gold pieces are set to the main stat what it is. can still get the same sub-stat rolls

regular gold pieces have higher main stat value as well?

Most of the time they are lower, but a few sets do have higher values

[Lindo [EN][ES]]

What I really want to know is the max amount of HP, DEF, and Shield each External Component can provide as primary bonus, and what is the min-max values of each secondary bonus, of course, all in ultimate version. I know what we can have in each gear, this image shows all:

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2486634182022420694/7CBED908EFAA59769C6C1A06F0A6E75817F8D02E/

But this image doesn't show the min-max value of each bonus (primary and secondary), so it doesn't help that much. What I know about the primary bonus max amount is:

Power:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 206

Sensor:
HP: 646
DEF: 2385
Shield: 275

Memory:
HP: 484
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275

Processor:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275

[Mordtziel]

Originally posted by Nego Lindo EN:

What I really want to know is the max amount of HP, DEF, and Shield each External Component can provide as primary bonus, and what is the min-max values of each secondary bonus, of course, all in ultimate version. I know what we can have in each gear, this image shows all:
Power:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 206

Sensor:
HP: 646
DEF: 2385
Shield: 275

Memory:
HP: 484
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275

Processor:
HP: 646
DEF: 4683
Shield: 275

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Nego Lindo EN:

Is it possible to find any External Component with HP, DEF, and Shield? I'm looking for one with all 3 attributes and I can't find, always with up to 2 of those. By the way, in your opinion, which combinations do you think it's better? I'm going DEF enough to reach 15k, HP enough to reach 10k, everything else on Shield.

standard ult components can double dip hp and def. I would recommend, 2 with 2x hp and 2 with 2x Def, the last stat being elemental resistances, unless you are speccing specifically into a set bonus. Set bonuses don't double dip so you need to find something that can at least fulfill a role, so Hp/Resistance/Mp Recovery or MP, shield if you want to but shield tanking is not really a thing for anyone other than Enzo, and the shield mod you need doesn't even drop.

If you need to find specific components, goto the map in hard mode, goto the reward option, and then tap on the tabs for each region on the left and you will see 2 that have either Aux, Processor, etc. They rotate weekly, those locations drop ultimate components at a fairly high right (more if you use Increased Equipment drops affix).

Then you basically want as stated above, a universal set for survivability, anything you need thats niche. Then at least an ult stat for gold drop rate, Firearm experience, Character Experience, and the holy grail is a double ult sub Aux with Kuiper shard and Module drop rate increase.

[Mordtziel]

standard ult components can double dip hp and def. I would recommend, 2 with 2x hp and 2 with 2x Def

You uh...you got some proof of that bud? Cuz as far as the internet is aware, only power can double roll hp and only memory can double roll def.

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Mordtziel:

standard ult components can double dip hp and def. I would recommend, 2 with 2x hp and 2 with 2x Def

You uh...you got some proof of that bud? Cuz as far as the internet is aware, only power can double roll hp and only memory can double roll def.

yeah my bad, my brains been in farm mode too long lol. the other two are HP/MP/Res and Def/Res/Max Shield. The other have the combos. I have so many components and gear presets done got lost in the sauce, but what I said as far as the rest go still applies. The only diff is Processor and Sensor

[Lindo [EN][ES]]

I'm researching about it, it seems shield is completely useless, right? We should focus on 64k DEF (sweet spot) and everything else on HP. There's a MOD called Overwhelmingly HP that turns 14% Shield into HP and set Shield to 1... I don't think this mod is good, if we ignore shield as max as possible, we won't even reach 300, so a mod slot to turn less than 300 shield into 42 HP seems bad, I rather go a mod that gives me +HP, +DEF, or Recovery (or maybe resistance).

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Nego Lindo EN:

I'm researching about it, it seems shield is completely useless, right? We should focus on 64k DEF (sweet spot) and everything else on HP. There's a MOD called Overwhelmingly HP that turns 14% Shield into HP and set Shield to 1... I don't think this mod is good, if we ignore shield as max as possible, we won't even reach 300, so a mod slot to turn less than 300 shield into 42 HP seems bad, I rather go a mod that gives me +HP, +DEF, or Recovery (or maybe resistance).

Shield is good for some chars, and if you can get shield collector mod, it has potential for some good things for units like Enzo as an example. Sweet spot isn't 64k defence, lol. Maybe for Ajax, but that's alot of wasted mods on other units tbh.