what dps numbers to hit for hard bosses? (end screen)

[Zepulchure]

fairly simple, what number should i hit at minimum, so i know if i need to change my approach or build?

currently playing Enzo, Freyna, Sharen. and overall i feel confident, i hit my shots (most of the time) and i rarely get downed, but often end up running around ressing others, and clearing the trash that kills them (they stand still in groups of mobs....)

currently on hard mode dead bride.

as a side note,,, does level matter? after having reset with a catalyst i mean.

[D. Flame]

Anything over 300K DPS on a gun seems fine at least until the forced Co-Op Colossi in hard mode.

[Blaze]

Damage numbers become kinda important in Hard mode. I would say for now focus on finishing the campaign then unlocking the hard mode. After that grind for Ultimate Bunny and Ultimate Lepic. Follow a good build guide for them, Bunny is amazing at farming and Lepic will get you through most of bosses really easily. Also the fact that you have Enzo and Sharen is really good as they are needed for some of the grindings

[Zepulchure]

Originally posted by Blaze:

Damage numbers become kinda important in Hard mode. I would say for now focus on finishing the campaign then unlocking the hard mode. After that grind for Ultimate Bunny and Ultimate Lepic. Follow a good build guide for them, Bunny is amazing at farming and Lepic will get you through most of bosses really easily. Also the fact that you have Enzo and Sharen is really good as they are needed for some of the grindings

already beating the campaign (i should have clarified im at hard mode bride)

i absolutely hate playing bunny, they gameplay itself i find super boring, no matter how overpowered she might be. i have deleted base bunny from my descendant list (also due to capacity in the future) since i know i have no reason/will to play her.

i might try to get lepic, tho for now i have just been trying to get some more weapons (enduring legacy, afterglow, smithereens, executor)

[[UNQL]Tango]

Originally posted by Zepulchure:

i absolutely hate playing bunny, they gameplay itself i find super boring, no matter how overpowered she might be. i have deleted base bunny from my descendant list (also due to capacity in the future) since i know i have no reason/will to play her.

Well, it is your choice of course, but you definitely shot yourself in the leg here.

The amount of time she can save you in the long farms is incredible. I probably would have burned out long ago without her. With UBunny I reach my goals within a bearable amount of time and then I can do something else, I am not stuck doing the same thing over and over again for hours after hours.

[TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S]

Originally posted by UNQLTango:

Originally posted by Zepulchure:

i absolutely hate playing bunny, they gameplay itself i find super boring, no matter how overpowered she might be. i have deleted base bunny from my descendant list (also due to capacity in the future) since i know i have no reason/will to play her.

Well, it is your choice of course, but you definitely shot yourself in the leg here.

The amount of time she can save you in the long farms is incredible. I probably would have burned out long ago without her. With UBunny I reach my goals within a bearable amount of time and then I can do something else, I am not stuck doing the same thing over and over again for hours after hours.

Noone says shes bad character or bad farming character but no matter how you take it the way she is played is kinda boring bunny is much more about her skills than her weapons i mean yea sure great weapons help but when bunny is builded up its preety much just run + aoe and over and over and that can actually be quite boring for some.

[Zepulchure]

Originally posted by TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S:

[e, I am not stuck doing the same thing over and over again for hours after hours. [/quote]
Noone says shes bad character or bad farming character but no matter how you take it the way she is played is kinda boring bunny is much more about her skills than her weapons i mean yea sure great weapons help but when bunny is builded up its preety much just run + aoe and over and over and that can actually be quite boring for some.

this is exactly it. i know she is good, i see it in person when i farm puplic things a bunnies join. but that does not make the person any less boring to play.

i would rather take longer to farm, but actually enjoy playing the game, than doing it faster but close the game cuz the gameplay is the most boring thing ever created.

even when a bunny joins in puplic i rarely stay long, again it might be faster, but its just so damn boring... Bunny is the main reason i burn out on a daily basis and boot up other games. either boring farms where you do nothing but watch. or you are constantly ressing a bunny in boss fights cuz they cant take a single hit (not all, but a vast majority)

[Pixelica]

In end game content I rarely resurrect Bunny in intercept, it's either Lepic or Gley

[Whale Ocean]

Originally posted by Zepulchure:

fairly simple, what number should i hit at minimum, so i know if i need to change my approach or build?

currently playing Enzo, Freyna, Sharen. and overall i feel confident, i hit my shots (most of the time) and i rarely get downed, but often end up running around ressing others, and clearing the trash that kills them (they stand still in groups of mobs....)

currently on hard mode dead bride.

as a side note,,, does level matter? after having reset with a catalyst i mean.

hmm you can try play private first and see the weapon gives significant damage or not. Then exit to build up your module, before you can do it directly, but it seems Nexon has patched that. Or you may try it in lab but somehow it's not giving a good damage result compare to colossi.

For level it matter it will be the base value for the skill damage calculation, hp and def. All can be ignored if you have good core or the external thingy.

[Zepulchure]

Originally posted by Pixelica:

In end game content I rarely resurrect Bunny in intercept, it's either Lepic or Gley :lunar2019deadpanpig:

bunny, lepic, gley, valby, are the ones i stay close too, as i mist likely have to ress them at some point based on experience (again only at hard mode bride, so just from multiple executioner and bride runs) but also just hard mode missions

cant say for later on of course

[Zepulchure]

Originally posted by Whale Forever:

hmm you can try play private first and see the weapon gives significant damage or not. Then exit to build up your module, before you can do it directly, but it seems Nexon has patched that. Or you may try it in lab but somehow it's not giving a good damage result compare to colossi.

For level it matter it will be the base value for the skill damage calculation, hp and def. All can be ignored if you have good core or the external thingy.

thanks, i have not attempted a private intercept as of yet, prefer to play with people, even randoms xD

i have decent externals and reactors collected at this point, and i focus my modules more on base and defensive's first, in terms of upgrading them, if you are dead you cant deal damage anyway, and just drag down your focused damage dealers

[Pixelica]

Originally posted by Zepulchure:

Originally posted by Pixelica:

In end game content I rarely resurrect Bunny in intercept, it's either Lepic or Gley

bunny, lepic, gley, valby, are the ones i stay close too, as i mist likely have to ress them at some point based on experience (again only at hard mode bride, so just from multiple executioner and bride runs) but also just hard mode missions

cant say for later on of course

You probably teamed up with bad Bunny players who stay in place to shoot and forget that they are Bunny lol.
Experienced Bunny players will always move, jump, grapple, while shooting, they will rarely stop moving since their 3rd skill require them to always move.

[😎Astran😾]

Below 30M damage = you are abusing co-op functionality

(bosses have 120M+ hitpoints)

Meanwhile Enzo with Enduring Legacy may output 120M in 30 seconds on the final boss. If your mission screen don't show this number - you are playing the game wrong

[Boink]

Here is the average pool of bosses to Gluttony

https://tfdtools.com/bosses

You can drag the scale 1-4.

I'd say around 25M is OK. If you are support-based around lower than 15M is acceptable. I think I do around 35-40M with Ultimate Gley in a premade with an Enzo.

[Whale Ocean]

Originally posted by Zepulchure:

Originally posted by Whale Forever:

hmm you can try play private first and see the weapon gives significant damage or not. Then exit to build up your module, before you can do it directly, but it seems Nexon has patched that. Or you may try it in lab but somehow it's not giving a good damage result compare to colossi.

For level it matter it will be the base value for the skill damage calculation, hp and def. All can be ignored if you have good core or the external thingy.

thanks, i have not attempted a private intercept as of yet, prefer to play with people, even randoms xD

i have decent externals and reactors collected at this point, and i focus my modules more on base and defensive's first, in terms of upgrading them, if you are dead you cant deal damage anyway, and just drag down your focused damage dealers

If you want to try your build I think it's okay to private colossi first, if the build id bad exit and retry the build again. In team player if you exit during colossi then it will leave a bad taste on your teammate. I do hope Nexon add colossi in the lab to test damage rather than need to go private.

for the second one yeah that's why I do it too defense then hp. For enzo defense then shield.

[Zepulchure]

Originally posted by Whale Forever:

If you want to try your build I think it's okay to private colossi first, if the build id bad exit and retry the build again. In team player if you exit during colossi then it will leave a bad taste on your teammate. I do hope Nexon add colossi in the lab to test damage rather than need to go private.

for the second one yeah that's why I do it too defence then hp. For enzo defense then shield.

so far i have never left a colossi fight in progress, even if i am the last one left alive, and i know i wont make it, i still keep going just to get used to the movements and attacks for future grinding and such.

yeah i focus on HP and Shield, but also have secondary defense (on Enzo, for others i just focus HP and Defense)