The First Descendant

The First Descendant

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Ice Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:34pm
Is Freyna Weak or am I just building her wrong?
I was in the lab testing damage potentials with all of the dudes and dudettes I unlocked. After getting Lepic to a place where I can comfortably throw like 8 ultimates out for maximized crit/crit damage output. I decided to take a look at Freyna because I enjoy her aesthetic.

Her poison bolt does 11k damage up front if hitting and the puddle or poison does about 800 per tick. Her bigger puddle only does about 4k to 5k per tick. She has pathetically low crit chance and crit damage. Stacking TECH/TOXIC onto her only marginally increases the poison damage even with 9 enemies afflicted.

With a fully optimized damage and duration kit, it took 5 large puddles of venom to kill 9 Level 100 Vulgus that were weak to toxic.

My question is. Is she supposed to be more of a defense build/debuff? Her neurotoxic would be useful for missions that have overwhelming enemies and some outpost raids. But her abilities are so weak there seems to be no point in playing her for anything but Void Shards and the occasional Secret Op.

Other descendants that have DoT like Valby completely blow her out of the water in damage and utility. I've seen Valbies that can fill an entire room with Range and Duration buffs and take out entire areas worth of enemies without batting an Eye, yet I've seen no Freyna main that was legitimately good.

My friend recommended a Neurotoxin/Fallen Hope build to maximize her potential but I don't want to work on a descendant that is just going to fall short and waste my time. Is it worth the investment?
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Delphinus Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:38pm 
Slots are what matter having Descendants with full upgrade slots makes them stronger o.o However considering Ult Fryena will be out Soon™ I dont think its a good idea too invest in the normal version any more o.O
Kalieko Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by Delphinus:
Slots are what matter having Descendants with full upgrade slots makes them stronger o.o However considering Ult Fryena will be out Soon™ I dont think its a good idea too invest in the normal version any more o.O
Agreed. Stats will remain the same on fully maxed freyna and Frey a ult, only difference being the transcended mods which are usually better for dps.
cmmp.0157 Aug 23, 2024 @ 6:37pm 
I have on my Feyna: Focus on Toxic, Focus on Tech for damage; with Freyna 3rd skill:

16k to 18k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

17k to 20k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

20k to 24k per tick to the 'Legion of immortality'.

on Valby: Focu on Non-Atributte, Focus on Dimension; with Valby 3rd skill:

84k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

35k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

38k per tick to the 'Legion of Immortality'.

Freyna has more ticks than Valby so it took a similar amount of to kill them.
Whale Ocean Aug 23, 2024 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by cmmp.0157:
I have on my Feyna: Focus on Toxic, Focus on Tech for damage; with Freyna 3rd skill:

16k to 18k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

17k to 20k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

20k to 24k per tick to the 'Legion of immortality'.

on Valby: Focu on Non-Atributte, Focus on Dimension; with Valby 3rd skill:

84k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

35k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

38k per tick to the 'Legion of Immortality'.

Freyna has more ticks than Valby so it took a similar amount of to kill them.
Can you share your build?
cmmp.0157 Aug 23, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Whale Forever:
Originally posted by cmmp.0157:
I have on my Feyna: Focus on Toxic, Focus on Tech for damage; with Freyna 3rd skill:

16k to 18k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

17k to 20k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

20k to 24k per tick to the 'Legion of immortality'.

on Valby: Focu on Non-Atributte, Focus on Dimension; with Valby 3rd skill:

84k per tick to the 'Order of Truth';

35k per tick to the 'Legion of Darkness';

38k per tick to the 'Legion of Immortality'.

Freyna has more ticks than Valby so it took a similar amount of to kill them.
Can you share your build?

On Freyna its just the Focus on mods for damage plus skill expansion, skill extention and nimble fingers, Toxic Mechanics Reactor with a gold sub stat for Duration and a blue substat for sub attack power.

On Valby its also just the Focus on mods for damage plus skill expansion, skill extention, maximize duration and nimble fingers, Materialized Phase Reactor with blue sub stat for cooldown and purple for Dimenssion skill power boost ratio.

I've put a energy activator on Valby to have more duration mods.
Last edited by cmmp.0157; Aug 23, 2024 @ 7:32pm
Zepulchure Aug 23, 2024 @ 10:45pm 
for Freyna, my personal go-to is duration, size, and overall damage, and the obvious defensive modules. get Toxic Stimulation (share body armor/defense) and passionate sponsor, this will boost your firearm attack, along with fallen hope that already gets boosted simply by shooting a poisoned enemy,

put on toxic gunbarrel to increase even more when shooting a poisoned enemy (as well as toxic damage on the gun itself) and all the classic things, focus purely on firearm ATK; dont mess around with crit/weakpoint unless you have maxed the other things out, as this build is raw damage boosting and not a chance to hit for higher numbers.

you became very reliant in terms of survival, and if you are downed you deal no damage (something bunny, lepic, gley and valby players need to realise......)

contagion is a trap module, your poison already spreads at base, and fallen hope does as well, so there is no need for it. remember your weapon is important for your 4th skill. including the reactor you use. adding a bit of capacity in your gun is not a bad choice.
P.Diddy's Baby Oil Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:02pm 
in a vacuum she's not horrible. in the context of the game she's pretty bad. she's actually better as a boss killer than a mobber currently, when compared to the other descendants. may as well just give her the saryn treatment, maybe make her poisons spread in a 500m radius so mobs will be dead before bunny can C to them. would be funny, and why not?
Xsile Aug 24, 2024 @ 12:39am 
The mod you are really looking for to make Frenya shine is called contagion. It is a game changer for me.
Ravnin Aug 24, 2024 @ 1:06am 
I like her but she's kinda slow...

You could build her for AOE mob clearing with her 1 and 3 or you could build her for bossing with her 4 which is the only reason to even build crit on her if you really want to... her Neurotoxin Synthesis module is good for single target and your weapons mag size, rapid fire and firing fiesta modules effect her 4 too.
Pixelica Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:00am 
She got overshadowed by Valby, who is more tanky, agile, versitile, and consistent dealing damage since Valby is non attr.
Last edited by Pixelica; Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:00am
[HI5]Turbine Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:42am 
1. You need a lot of skill modifier
2. You need contagion skill mod
3. Forget 3, just spam 1
4. Use 1 in the pack, shoot few bullets in 1 mob and then all be pop-pop-pop
Last edited by [HI5]Turbine; Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:43am
Tenz Aug 24, 2024 @ 3:01am 
People try to act like freyna is tfd's saryn but how enemies spawn in the game and the cooldowns on her moves really don't make her that useful.

She needs skill power modifier to be good because her dots are all very low numbers.
It is my CAT Aug 24, 2024 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by Ice:
Is it worth the investment?
If you want top girl, go for Ult Gley. I don't think, that new ice girl will be so great, because she is ice type.
I think, ppl play Freyna, because they like her. Same as I like low tier Viessa and play her. I do have U Lepic for fast kill, though.
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Date Posted: Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:34pm
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