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Peter Pan Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:23pm
Thinking of Bunny as main, need advice
Hello all,

To take a break from all the "nErF bUnNy" threads, I was thinking of just joining the bandwagon and use all possible tools to maximize efficiency. I am thinking of using Bunny for all content.

However, I am unsure of the limitations of Bunny.

1a. How far can Bunny go in terms of hard mode dungeons?

1b. Similar question but in terms of hard mode Colossus?

2. What content should you never use Bunny in, as in don't build her to do that particular content because it'd be a waste of resources?

3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?
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namvfpx Aug 22, 2024 @ 2:53am 
1a. Bunny is the best choice to farm HM dungeon, pick the highest kill score then run.
1b. Put some survive mods, you can join any intercept battle, just don't die and be useful.
2. No, especially in any farming content, I want to see bunny in my team, help to kill faster.
3. You can trade off crit mods to get MP mods, -skill cost mods, but wait for next update then let see we can use multi-build at the same time with switchable slot.
Glad to see more bunny players, each time I sign a socket, I need to find them in echo swamp or bunny cave.
BigCunggus Aug 22, 2024 @ 2:56am 
You just dont play this game using one character...there are people who already maxed out multiple character for different purpose
CandyBonz Aug 22, 2024 @ 2:59am 
I use my Ult Bunny for farming only. Same as i use Enzo for opening vaults
Geist Aug 22, 2024 @ 3:09am 
She is well worth it. Especially Ult Bunny. Once you get her set up a good amount of mod sockets you will plow through almost everything. The best farming character in a farming game. There are alternatives though so do whatever you like.
RiseM Aug 22, 2024 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Originally posted by RiseM:
Bunny is best for general content and mobbing, you can easily solo any hard mode dungeon. It’s true for most AoE damage dealers, but bunny is fast, second option is Vaulby.

I need some insight about this.
So you're saying Bunny's ability can completely replace the need for a gun in hard mode dungeons?
Yes, using 3rd skill with enough range and damage bonuses will. Invest 2-3 catalysts and expand capacity to 80.
Busted648 Aug 22, 2024 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Hello all,

To take a break from all the "nErF bUnNy" threads, I was thinking of just joining the bandwagon and use all possible tools to maximize efficiency. I am thinking of using Bunny for all content.

However, I am unsure of the limitations of Bunny.

1a. How far can Bunny go in terms of hard mode dungeons?

1b. Similar question but in terms of hard mode Colossus?

2. What content should you never use Bunny in, as in don't build her to do that particular content because it'd be a waste of resources?

3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?

go ahead and main her, be a part of the problem that will ruin the game and kill it fast.
Originally posted by Nerf Bunny=Save the Game:
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Hello all,

To take a break from all the "nErF bUnNy" threads, I was thinking of just joining the bandwagon and use all possible tools to maximize efficiency. I am thinking of using Bunny for all content.

However, I am unsure of the limitations of Bunny.

1a. How far can Bunny go in terms of hard mode dungeons?

1b. Similar question but in terms of hard mode Colossus?

2. What content should you never use Bunny in, as in don't build her to do that particular content because it'd be a waste of resources?

3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?

go ahead and main her, be a part of the problem that will ruin the game and kill it fast.
can you cry any more with that username hahahaha
Grimwagon Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by Geist:
She is well worth it. Especially Ult Bunny. Once you get her set up a good amount of mod sockets you will plow through almost everything. The best farming character in a farming game. There are alternatives though so do whatever you like.


IGNORE ULT chr's as THEYRE ALL A WASTE OF TIME unless you absolutly NEED to get rid some $$ buying an ult skin. (Exception is Gley who gets 2x DEF as ult vs normal Gley)

i solo 240%'s with normal bunny and its still a stand around and wait bore chore 99% of the time. EVERYONE thinks they need high voltage and somehow that makes bunny stronger well let me tell you this. I run a lot of Special Operations and watch ult bunnys drop like flies on the easiest of them all Echo Swamp. people let card swiping streamers tell them how to play. how is only hitting 3 enemies at a time when there are over 40 coming at you better? Thats why by the time you have killed 15 of them youve already taken so much damage your now running away. (truth be told most bunnys and everyone else rarely if ever make it to the end) after 440 hrs of play i can honestly say the most fun ive had is following bunnys around with yujin and blowing up entire groups of enemies with the press of 1 button (on a 1.8 sec coo down as well) before bunny can even get there. i can do the same with sharen (all 4 Trans mods maxed) probably less than .01 % of people in this game have actually built around and tried most chr's trans mods. Find a chr you like and guess what once you have a maxed Greg's, Maxed Naz, and (take your pick) weapon maxed like Thunder-The last Dagger ( have hit enemies for over 750k with 1 bullet from this gun that noone uses lmao) etc your skills become more and more of a way to slow your run down.

on norm bunny only time i turn speed of light off is between rounds on def missions and mostly not even then as there are so many consumables around there is no need. On hard bosses (have solo'd every hard mode boss on norm bunny long long time ago it feels like as ive moved on from bunny and really only use this chr to solo 230's and up as missions are so boring now its easier to pay attention to whichever show im watching with the brainless play style she has. there is nowhere near enough content in this game to play only one chr and once your chr is maxed you will realize that oh i was just playing the game and now i have nothing left to do o n this chr i think im gonna unlock someone else and ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME instead of holding W and spamming space bar..

But as Geist said PLAY WHAT YOU WANT
[UNQL]Tango Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Hello all,
1a. How far can Bunny go in terms of hard mode dungeons?

Exceptionally good. Any HM Dungeon is easy with a proper Bunny build.


Originally posted by Peter Pan:
1b. Similar question but in terms of hard mode Colossus?

Also viable, She is not the best for this content, but with my UBunny High-Voltage build, I have no problem soloing them. I wish all Colossi could be soloed, it is nearly impossible to do the team ones because of the leavers.


Originally posted by Peter Pan:
2. What content should you never use Bunny in, as in don't build her to do that particular content because it'd be a waste of resources?

Anything where you can't use your skills. Like a lot of monsters with skill block powers/drain mana. Still manageable, but really not ideal.


Originally posted by Peter Pan:
3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?

Yes, there are builds for that. For my mobbing setup, I use the MP Collector mod, but there are other builds for Mana upkeep. Otherwise I just learned how to manage it. For example I never Ult. to keep up high Electricity, so my zapzap does max damage and I don't have to use Mana to reload Electricity.
Last edited by [UNQL]Tango; Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:14am
Abewr Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?

I've seen 2 main ways to build her.
1. Always running with -skill cost and collector.
2. Mostly rolling, can run when needed to. Uses CDR to get the rolling tickrate to match the running tickrate. Potent Collector is good with this setup and can also run MP, but not as effective at maintaining C.

For current content I prefer #2. This might change in Season 1. Also don't recommend playing with others unless it's Block Kuipers or other Spec Ops because I can lock down entire missions solo leaving the others with nothing to do, but it's up to you.
Last edited by Abewr; Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:15am
crawlord Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:18am 
i only farm with regular bunny pre ulti without max catalysts.Use boss set with mp recovery in combat / max mp /range etc and you will still farm alot.For bossing i went ult lepic to molten fortress (my only f2p ult) .. im a still grinding mastery.
Nikorasu Aug 22, 2024 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Hello all,

To take a break from all the "nErF bUnNy" threads, I was thinking of just joining the bandwagon and use all possible tools to maximize efficiency. I am thinking of using Bunny for all content.

However, I am unsure of the limitations of Bunny.

1a. How far can Bunny go in terms of hard mode dungeons?

1b. Similar question but in terms of hard mode Colossus?

2. What content should you never use Bunny in, as in don't build her to do that particular content because it'd be a waste of resources?

3. I find that I often run out of mana so I cannot use her Speed of Light ability. Is it possible to keep the uptime of Speed of Light forever through mana reduction or MP modules, or is it a bad idea and I should just build her for maximum dps?

1. Bunny is still the number 1 best descendant for mobbing and can get through dungeons pretty fast no matter if its, normal or hard mode.

2. Bunny is pretty good for boss battles too, but not the best. Like I was able to solo through hard mode bosses all the way to the Frost Walker from just using Ultimate Bunny alone. Since the game won't allow you to solo Frost Walker or anyone beyond that, you'll have to do other Colossus in public matches.

3. If you want to build your Bunny only mobbing or dungeons then use modules and external components to build up her skills attack power, critical hits, skill reduction etc.

4. If you have problems with mana running out, then you don't need to constantly to use the running skills unless there is a horde of enemy's or speed run the dungeons. And yes you can also use modules or external components that does something with MP to make running last longer

5. Yes there is a limit to what Bunny can do alone which is why you need to focus on other descendants too. Like I got both my regular Bunny and Ultimate Bunny maxed out, so I'm currently working on maxing out my Ultimate Gley, Ultimate Lepic, Frenya, and Luna

Last edited by Nikorasu; Aug 22, 2024 @ 7:06am
Echo2Omega Aug 22, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
With my have baked Ultimate Bunny I have cleared (and currently "on farm"):

Everything.

There is currently NO content in the game that requires a fully min/maxed descendant + weapon(s). It certainly makes things faster and easier. but it's not required.
D. Flame Aug 22, 2024 @ 3:26pm 
https://youtu.be/cOuf7P6DXBo

Bunny soloing the final mission of the game with zero catalysts and no energy activator, on hard mode. Build is at the end of the video.
Peter Pan Aug 22, 2024 @ 9:26pm 
Thanks all for the info.

Originally posted by Nerf Bunny=Save the Game:
go ahead and main her, be a part of the problem that will ruin the game and kill it fast.

If you could go a few seconds without raging about Bunny and actually read my thread, you'll see that all I'm doing is trying to progress in this game. This is why I'm exploring the limitations of Bunny, to see what is possible.

So to all the anti-Bunny people in this forum, what is your recommendation to progress?
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Date Posted: Aug 21, 2024 @ 10:23pm
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