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Nicotine Jul 11, 2024 @ 9:16am
defence/hp question
i got 37.500 Def and 16k HP on my Gley. Is it better to lower my Def around 30k and boost more HP?
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TyresTyco Jul 11, 2024 @ 9:20am 
Tbh. Yeah. My Freyna runs around with 22 k hp and only 1831 def. I'm fine. Die very rarely and only under very heavy fire from tons of mobs together in hard mode dungeons.
Bolborn Jul 11, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
There's hard brackets every 10k until 60k then goes up by 20k, each bracket blocks 10% damage. On gley i run around 50k, with 15hp the Def does make a really huge difference. Now i wouldn't drop below 12-15k on gley though otherwise shes to squishy when you using the V skill.
Synthx Jul 11, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
Stack hp and get HP Collector so you can heal while in your Increased Sensory i have only 10k DEF from External Components and that seems enough
16k HP? really? I barely make out o 1.5k HP on my characters
Shadowness Jul 11, 2024 @ 3:51pm 
hp is way better
Nicotine Jul 11, 2024 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by Bolborn:
There's hard brackets every 10k until 60k then goes up by 20k, each bracket blocks 10% damage. On gley i run around 50k, with 15hp the Def does make a really huge difference. Now i wouldn't drop below 12-15k on gley though otherwise shes to squishy when you using the V skill.

Does this mean 38k def=38% reduction ? or ill get 30% reduction cuz of lacking 2k def?
Last edited by Nicotine; Jul 11, 2024 @ 4:36pm
Nicotine Jul 11, 2024 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by ᚷᛟᛞᛚᛁᚲᛖ:
16k HP? really? I barely make out o 1.5k HP on my characters
don't worry, i play only 5 days and reached those stats xD
All descendant modules focused on HP/DEF ?
Nicotine Jul 12, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by ᚷᛟᛞᛚᛁᚲᛖ:
All descendant modules focused on HP/DEF ?
in my case yes, cuz i play Gley, thats all she needs (infinite rocket spam build)
Keiq Jul 12, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by Nicotine:
i got 37.500 Def and 16k HP on my Gley. Is it better to lower my Def around 30k and boost more HP?
simple answer, yes
The def is capped at intervals % wise, until you reach a certain point. HP is king until later. Res/shield doesn't out weigh either, but depends on your class
LaggyLagg Jul 12, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by ᚷᛟᛞᛚᛁᚲᛖ:
16k HP? really? I barely make out o 1.5k HP on my characters
Assume they're in hard mode. I don't know why these posts never specify that or their gear level avg,
TemplarGFX Jul 12, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
9K HP Bunny. I tried different combinations but health is just a far better choice from what I can tell. Mainly due to two reasons : you get health pickups drop all the time, and you can get a mod that gives you 9%HP on kill every 2 seconds
TyresTyco Jul 12, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by LaggyLagg:
Originally posted by ᚷᛟᛞᛚᛁᚲᛖ:
16k HP? really? I barely make out o 1.5k HP on my characters
Assume they're in hard mode. I don't know why these posts never specify that or their gear level avg,

There is no gear lvl this isn't destiny. Hard mode or not isnt that important since most hp mods drop in normal mode.

Yeah best components ofc drop in hard mode but 15 k is easily possible in normal mode.
LaggyLagg Jul 12, 2024 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
Originally posted by LaggyLagg:
Assume they're in hard mode. I don't know why these posts never specify that or their gear level avg,

There is no gear lvl this isn't destiny. Hard mode or not isnt that important since most hp mods drop in normal mode.

Yeah best components ofc drop in hard mode but 15 k is easily possible in normal mode.

Don't ever mention destiny with me. And what I meant by gear level avg is your progress. your external components (aux power, sensor, memory, and processor) add a flat number to your base stats that are calculated with the mods afterward. So, the level does matter.

And my problem is with people not telling how they get there, and even you saying it's possible in normal mode. everyone who did just said it as such like it's a common thing while others are bewildered as to how.
T0b1maru Jul 12, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Nicotine:
Originally posted by Bolborn:
There's hard brackets every 10k until 60k then goes up by 20k, each bracket blocks 10% damage. On gley i run around 50k, with 15hp the Def does make a really huge difference. Now i wouldn't drop below 12-15k on gley though otherwise shes to squishy when you using the V skill.

Does this mean 38k def=38% reduction ? or ill get 30% reduction cuz of lacking 2k def?

That person is completely wrong. It's a curve, so the more you have the less effective it becomes.
Unless you are playing a tank you don't need huge DEF. The only linear scaling defense is HP.

There's a mathematician on Youtube explaining offensive and defensive stats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9icoHau-Uxc
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