why tamer?

[charlin]

is there a ultimate version of it, or is it just better than any ultimate weapon?

[JackieTheDemon]

look at DPS.

[Djozar]

Not "any" but pretty close. Freyna might be one of the few who use the ultimate instead of Tamer. But that Ult just synergizes with her kit so well. Even then, it going to come down to personal preference and what feels best for the player.

[Carne Padre]

In terms of DPS its pretty high up there. But not only that, what makes it really great is how easy it is to obtain. You can legit just use that while farming up everything else.

[dexter]

Highest DPS currently, but DPS calculation in game is inaccurate. It is still highest DPS but when you account for weakpoint, crit(crit calculation is bugged in game) many hand cannons are better and many ultimate weapon compete well(such as thunder cage). Ultimate weapons also have other modifiers and effects that will have an effect on DPS but are not accounted for in the game's calculation.

I personally use Tamer for bosses if I need to and just use Thunder Cage for everything else since it kills groups of enemies faster than the tamer

[charlin]

so if you already have a thunder cage you don't need a tamer then? I'm confused because i got several ultimate weapons fairly easy and going for a lower tier main weapon sounds kinda counterintuitive

[Josey]

Thunder Cage
Critical rate + critical damage Golden rolls & mods
Maximum unique ability level

>Deliver death

[dexter]

Originally posted by charlin:

so if you already have a thunder cage you don't need a tamer then? I'm confused because i got several ultimate weapons fairly easy and going for a lower tier main weapon sounds kinda counterintuitive

You don't NEED it and can totally kill the bosses, at least until hard mode(I'm not progressed far enough into hard mode to test it on all the bosses). If you are having trouble with your damage then definitely try to get a Tamer and see how it goes.

Just a note for Thunder Cage, as you level it up, make sure you reroll the substats as they can get higher with the level of the gun. If you dont reroll the substats, it can be potentially 10s of thousands of damage lost.

[_Atr4Mør5]

Cuz Tamer in default can be overclocked to the same level as Thunder Cage with Energy Activator.

[inkbear]

My Tamer is over 400 DPS I try to play with my Fallen Hope as Freyna, but it's hard when Tamer is so much more damage :p Until I get Contagion.

[MadMac392]

I have a Thunder Cage my DPS is 400k+ and still have room to up it more

[_Atr4Mør5]

Originally posted by MadMac392:

I have a Thunder Cage my DPS is 400k+ and still have room to up it more

But how many Stabilizers and Energy Activators did you applied on it?

[charlin]

Originally posted by _Atr4Mør5:

Cuz Tamer in default can be overclocked to the same level as Thunder Cage with Energy Activator.

you mean it needs lesses quality materials for the socket change and mod cap upgrade?

[_Atr4Mør5]

Originally posted by charlin:

Originally posted by _Atr4Mør5:

Cuz Tamer in default can be overclocked to the same level as Thunder Cage with Energy Activator.

you mean it needs lesses quality materials for the socket change and mod cap upgrade?

https://i.imgur.com/7359Unh.png
Thunder Cage upgraded
Tamper in full stock, just mods https://i.imgur.com/camfilY.png

[bluefish]

tool tip dps tells you nothing as the damage calculations are all wrong. As in the math is wrong. this guy can explain it much better then i can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST85nhYaxX0

[76561197988918266]

Tamer is the best white ammo weapon in dps(including reload cycle), and still is one of the top tier weapons when including green/purple ammo weapons(except for weakspot-only scenario) even when calculated correctly. It's also better than the ultimate machinegun.

Meaning it's just overall the best option for most players(or rather, console players), with no real downside since its plentiful ammo lets it do everything(and large magazine can do funny things with certain golden mods).

EDIT: thanks for the free points, no refunds hun!