CRITICAL problem for New Player Experience - Collosus Battles

[Scarr]

I'm a very high level player, I wanted to see how the first timers were doing, so I went back to the normal difficulty Colossus battles starting with the first one. I was going to do very little damage and just observe the "3 newbs" fighting and then help them win if needed.

However, every single time I went into these battles, some other high level player ran up to the boss and basically either killed it in 1 second, or killed it with 1 magazine as the bosses got harder. This continued all the way to Hanged Man. That's when I stopped checking.

Anyway, this is a major problem for the new players as it is clear my observation of the battles were not the exception but rather the common rule and experience.

The game makes you keep coming back to these boss battles in order to open the amorphous containers to be able to progress, I understand that, but high level players also need to respect the game and the new player experience as well. They need to remember dying over and over until they got their right loadout, build and learned the encounter.

The public matchmaking needs to be changed, so that players that have never defeated these bosses are ONLY matched with others like them. Players that HAVE defeated these bosses should ONLY be matched with others who have also defeated them.

Anyway, this is a real sour topic for me and needs to be a priority fix.

[Noop]

So you are crying about the experience of other players but you don't provide anything that would show that new players see this as an issue? Ok man steam forums I guess.

[Scarr]

Origineel geplaatst door Noop:

So you are crying about the experience of other players but you don't provide anything that would show that new players see this as an issue? Ok man steam forums I guess.

You take my post as "Crying"? You are not getting a clown award for your lame attempt at a troll post, if you are actually this dense, then I feel sorry for you.

[Nemoon]

The public matchmaking needs to be changed, so that players that have never defeated these bosses are ONLY matched with others like them. Players that HAVE defeated these bosses should ONLY be matched with others who have also defeated them.

Anyway, this is a real sour topic for me and needs to be a priority fix. [/quote]

I agree

[Icevenom]

I understand what you are saying however.. i would bet you ANY amount that a (significantly) higher percentage of new players go: "thank god there's this Arnold here to carry, screw this fight thanks bye".. than "damn i really wish i spent 15 more deaths to learn the mechanics for the bosses in this grind simulator".

[youmustbebornagain777]

I haven't seen this issue at all, lolz I'm usually the one rezzing people and killing the boss but it isn't as easy as you make it seem.

[Scarr]

Origineel geplaatst door Icevenom:

I understand what you are saying however.. i would bet you ANY amount that a (significantly) higher percentage of new players go: "thank god there's this Arnold here to carry, screw this fight thanks bye".. than "damn i really wish i spent 15 more deaths to learn the mechanics for the bosses in this grind simulator".

I disagree, every fight the new players got angry and told the higher level go play private that they ruined their experience, and I agree with them.

IF people have the opinion that "just carry the new players all the way to Hard Mode" then why even have the colossus battles at all? Just remove them until hard mode.

[Noop]

I mean this is just random gatekeeping at a high level. "It was hard for me so it should be hard for everybody" Obviously a ton of people won't agree with that.

[Danyel]

just No.

OP proposes a solution to a non existing problem.

Not once have I had a negative comment when running a normal boss and wiping the floor with it from any other party members.

However if new peeps want that new player experience they can just try to solo it in private.

The whole basis of the game is public is for playing with other randoms and you get what you get and PRIVATE is for when you want to do things YOURSELF without aid from others that may or may not ruin the experience for you.

[Scarr]

Origineel geplaatst door youmustbebornagain777:

I haven't seen this issue at all, lolz I'm usually the one rezzing people and killing the boss but it isn't as easy as you make it seem.

Then you are not close to high level. I can 1 shot the first 3 bosses. Others have more damage than me. I watched Hangman be killed in 15 seconds.

[Scarr]

Origineel geplaatst door Danyel:

just No.

OP proposes a solution to a non existing problem.

Its a massive problem, are you a low quality player that wants to be carried or what? Have someone else play the game for you while you're at it I guess.

[Danyel]

Origineel geplaatst door Scarr:

Origineel geplaatst door Danyel:

just No.

OP proposes a solution to a non existing problem.

Its a massive problem, are you a low quality player that wants to be carried or what? Have someone else play the game for you while you're at it I guess.

I have been playing since day one and only got carried for devourer as I was pressed for time and wanted to continue the campaign. I public matched all the others with other low level players. btw I expended what I meant in and edit while you posted this snarky little stupid comment.

[Scarr]

Go back right now, start with the first Collosus. Watch what happens, its stupid.

[Rogue]

Yeah, it's more important for you to virtue signal rather than actually engaging with the "newbies" and ask them directly. Let them eat cake I say, inflation is not real and my grocery bill for the same exact items didn't double in mere 4 years or something. lol.

[Danyel]

Origineel geplaatst door Scarr:

Go back right now, start with the first Collosus. Watch what happens, its stupid.

Like I said it's up to people to control THEIR OWN experience by using private instead of public.

The tool is there for new people that want the new people experience, the proposed solution to the non existing problem is to take away the option of others that want an easier public run to FORCE ALL new players to suck it up and and "git gud" by limiting their ability to use public with high levels that can carry them.

This is more of a pissing and moaning by some day one players, like myself, that want newer players to "feel the pain/excite/etc/whatnot" like they did and remove the choice of the matter from them period.

[Noop]

Notice how no new player came in and complained yet? Only high level players saying OP is gatekeeping.