CRITICAL problem for New Player Experience - Collosus Battles

[Scarr]

I'm a very high level player, I wanted to see how the first timers were doing, so I went back to the normal difficulty Colossus battles starting with the first one. I was going to do very little damage and just observe the "3 newbs" fighting and then help them win if needed.

However, every single time I went into these battles, some other high level player ran up to the boss and basically either killed it in 1 second, or killed it with 1 magazine as the bosses got harder. This continued all the way to Hanged Man. That's when I stopped checking.

Anyway, this is a major problem for the new players as it is clear my observation of the battles were not the exception but rather the common rule and experience.

The game makes you keep coming back to these boss battles in order to open the amorphous containers to be able to progress, I understand that, but high level players also need to respect the game and the new player experience as well. They need to remember dying over and over until they got their right loadout, build and learned the encounter.

The public matchmaking needs to be changed, so that players that have never defeated these bosses are ONLY matched with others like them. Players that HAVE defeated these bosses should ONLY be matched with others who have also defeated them.

Anyway, this is a real sour topic for me and needs to be a priority fix.

[Garou]

i 1 shotted hundreds of them for newbs no problem there

[Rabidnid]

21% of players have completed Vespers. That is a huge achievement for a game to still have people playing that far into the game. I* would assume a lot of these people got carried in the intercept battles because you can't half ass those like the rest of the game.

Intercept battles are stupidly hard and different and getting carried is not going to bother anyone.

[paulmalmsteen]

I tend to agree. Perhaps one way the devs could resolve this is that, if you haven't beaten the Void Intercept before, the game will pair you with others that haven't beaten it yet, and only after you beat it your first time will it pair you with anyone. That way you get a more authentic experience.

[Madlax]

lol i wish somebody carried me instead of tryharding each boss mutliple hours with random bozo players

[[SHH] Unreal4Real]

Yeah uh as a high level player this is not an issue. If I start with a new descendant and jump into a colossus battle I don't see this issue. In fact, I'm usually thanking the iron heart that someone is there to carry.

[Nikusui 😗]

Might be me, I figured I could help new players clear boss like devourer and bride, and at the same time open some mat and do battlepass quest. Fine, I'll solo next time.

[flortoop lonkle]

didn't know steam forums could be locked from giving awards, I was tryna give u a clown award

[JudgeTy]

Just so you know the opposite also happens... 4 undergeared players match up. They will not have enough damage to kill starting at Bride on up.

You can see the posts on here starting with Bride explaining as much.

[Henjo7]

I had that kinda experience with a mission once. Now I'm doing them solo. Just not fun to try and keep up with 2 higher lvl bunny players, that just zoom through and I can't even keep up movementspeed-wise. First colossus solo was alright to do. If you want a bit of a challenge, I'd recommend soloing them.

[PhellAsleep]

I've seen more posts from people on how they can't beat colossus because they only get matched with new players that are illequiped. I've also yet to see a high level player one-shot a colossus for me. It's pretty much always the normal struggle bus to get those missions done.

Maybe the matchmaking takes your actual gear score into account and isn't matching high level players with the newbs. So all you're seeing when you queue is other high level players that just one shot stuff with lvl 100 gear and weapons. In fact, you're probably seeing end geared players leveling low level characters as they farm easy content.

[Krieger]

deep thoughts right there, they should hire you as a consultant or something seems like you are very intelligent and smart, high level player too wow

[Blanchimont]

Reducing the HP buff on the bosses in groups would honestly fix the problem. The HP padding is the real problem more than anything and even a 10% cut would be more than enough.

[Junebug]

Just want to say that as a new player working through Devourer at the moment, this whole "new players getting carried" thing is not something I'm experiencing at all lmao. I've attempted Dead Bride and Devourer quite a few times and rather than geared out people I'm queued up with undergeared players. Whoever said it probably matches you based on gear score probably has a point since I only see the carries after I've beaten a boss and go back to it.

Edit - Just did Devourer on solo mode and it's actually way easier lmao. If anything, you're having a harder experience going with pubs.