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Saluko Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:32am
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Warframe is better
Imagine playing a Nexon game in 2024. You guys deserve to get scammed with that ingame shop and drop rates :leaSmug:
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Teykila Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:00am 
TFD is new so not having the same amount of content as Warframe is acceptable.
♥♥♥♥♥♥ predatory systems are not.
Hollow-Enigma Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Lamiosa:
Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:
Warframe might be out for longer and have had more time, but i don't think that is an excuse for TFD to be in the state that it is, on the contrary they could've learned from their successful competitor yet they did not. Even took some things and made them straight up worse, amorphous materials for EVERYTHING is stupid design, the inability to share loot in squads from those, the paint system is atrocious.

However, you should also keep in mind, Warframe has been made by a western company, while TFD was made by koreans, so both the audience (asians) might have been different and the understanding what is right in games.

For which a reasonable company would do market research to make sure the game conforms to local standards. And this is largely on monetization, game design is universal.
Last edited by Hollow-Enigma; Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:02am
hastur Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:02am 
Warframe is hard for new players, but it has a lot of good stuff, however this is a new game and, as all new games you have to give them time to improve and mature, the one thing that I will say is that TFD has some ridiculous shop prices for all the items, specially the Catalyst and energy things.
And btw this is a 1 to 1 warframe system copy, so.... yeah.
Lamiosa Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:
Originally posted by Lamiosa:

However, you should also keep in mind, Warframe has been made by a western company, while TFD was made by koreans, so both the audience (asians) might have been different and the understanding what is right in games.

For which a reasonable company would do market research to make sure the game conforms to local standards. And this is largely on monetization, game design is universal.
Sadly most companies just look at taking out content like sexual content, to make it "more appealing" to western politics, rather than spending money on changing mechanics completely to make it more appealing to gamers. I guess Nexon was not different.
BigCunggus Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:11am 
its better than warframe because korean figure it out how to simplify thing...finally
Nomeat710 Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:12am 
"Warframe is better" while this game has 3 times the player count at the writting of this comment
Lamiosa Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Nomeat710:
"Warframe is better" while this game has 3 times the player count at the writting of this comment

Checked it, you are not wrong, 24 hour peek:
TFD: 150,831
Warframe: 49,038
D. Flame Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Lamiosa:

Checked it, you are not wrong, 24 hour peek:
TFD: 150,831
Warframe: 49,038
Player retention over a long term is more important than peak numbers. We'll see what the numbers for TFD look like 1 year from now. If you expand the steamdb chart of WF, you'll see consistent number for years.
WF doesn't retain players, though.
Lamiosa Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Originally posted by Lamiosa:

Checked it, you are not wrong, 24 hour peek:
TFD: 150,831
Warframe: 49,038
Player retention over a long term is more important than peak numbers. We'll see what the numbers for TFD look like 1 year from now. If you expand the steamdb chart of WF, you'll see consistent number for years.

This topic has been started with a personal, emotional message anyway, so I guess most people are not interested, if I drop in any numbers anyway. I can write what I want, either people like TFD or not.
Hollow-Enigma Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by WaggishBean13 オタク:
Player retention over a long term is more important than peak numbers. We'll see what the numbers for TFD look like 1 year from now. If you expand the steamdb chart of WF, you'll see consistent number for years.
WF doesn't retain players, though.

You say that and yet here we are looking at a run of over a decade. Meanwhile you're betting on TFD which hasn't even started its content cycle yet. Can't really drawn any conclusions here.
Atomic Karate Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by Saluko:
Imagine playing a Nexon game in 2024. You guys deserve to get scammed with that ingame shop and drop rates :leaSmug:

warframe is owned by CCP
Last edited by Atomic Karate; Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:29am
Lamiosa Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
WF doesn't retain players, though.

You say that and yet here we are looking at a run of over a decade. Meanwhile you're betting on TFD which hasn't even started its content cycle yet. Can't really drawn any conclusions here.

The question is also, how many people you need to ENJOY a game, that is no RvR MMO. I am playing solo 90% of time, putting a side the people I get grouped with involuntary on open fields. So it would not matter for my enjoyment, if TFD has 500 000 or 50 000 players.
Last edited by Lamiosa; Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:31am
D. Flame Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
WF doesn't retain players, though.

You say that and yet here we are looking at a run of over a decade. Meanwhile you're betting on TFD which hasn't even started its content cycle yet. Can't really drawn any conclusions here.
WF is well known for burning out players, then desperately jumping to another platform to get their numbers back up.
Hollow-Enigma Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

You say that and yet here we are looking at a run of over a decade. Meanwhile you're betting on TFD which hasn't even started its content cycle yet. Can't really drawn any conclusions here.
WF is well known for burning out players, then desperately jumping to another platform to get their numbers back up.

Any game burns out players, TFD is no different, heck when you look at what they've got in place for retention i'd be concerned.
Anton Mar Jul 17, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Anyone who starts a comment or post with imagine.. No one thinks you're edgy or cool.
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