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Necro-Drake Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:02am
Gley is Confusing
(Firstly, I know Gley got hit with the nerf bat, though I'm unsure how hard they beat her with it and that might have had an effect on her kit.)

Playing her, her kit feels a little wonky... like un-optimized. Her base form is supposed to be slightly more tanky, with a sleight damage reduction and better healing over her frenzied form, but the only noticeable difference I saw was that she heals a lot more from health packs. Her Frenzied form feels like it should do more, with the healing reduction being a big negative compared to her actual benefits. The "Power of Life" orbs feel like they should also heal more than they do as not having shields and spending your life to actually activate your abilities drains you pretty good early on.

Boss fights are a PAIN. The health drops from minions decrease to an eighth as frequent as they are in the open world and it feels like this also includes the "Power of Life" orbs as they appear to drop way less frequently. This puts Gley in a very bad spot as every other character has a regenerating shield that they can manage and energy that they can spend on abilities (with the energy drops seemingly not decreasing), giving them longevity in such a fight. Gley, on the other hand, has to play a lot safer and use their abilities sparingly to both keep up their HP and the "Power of Life" resource.

Not to mention that that leveling doesn't seem to affect her frenzied ability at all, as its level gets raised but nothing happens. The only modifier from mods/items that seemed to affect it is cooldown reduction, but that literally only shows up in its stats and has no bearing on your ability to use it as I can literally spam it, eating away small chunks of HP just for activating it.

It looks like they were trying to make a Beserker character that would wade into the fray, managing her HP by swapping frenzy and getting her unique healing Item, while using her abilities strategically. She would use a high risk, high reward kind of playstyle since her major resource is her HP and her secondary resource can only be obtained from killing.

Instead, She feels kinda lackluster, as what she gives up isn't balanced by what she gains, and the playstyle that feels like it would fit her would mostly get you killed fairly easily.
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Paschendale Jul 21, 2024 @ 1:15am 
Blood and Iron, sounds like a skill issue
Levihime Jul 21, 2024 @ 3:23am 
Just use "Steal HP" Module. Its gold module to heal at 12% max hp after killing an enemy with a 2 sec CD at max lvl.
Tahl Jul 21, 2024 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Levihime:
Just use "Steal HP" Module. Its gold module to heal at 12% max hp after killing an enemy with a 2 sec CD at max lvl.
That requires mob kills and doesnt effect the number of orbs dropped for her passive.
It would actually be better if her kit disabled that and normal pickups in favor of synergy healing.
Like using frenzy to dps while building her 'mana' bar then dropping frenzy to consume the bar for actual hp. Or something along those lines. God, its actually harder to NOT come up with infinite ways she could have been done better.
T0b1maru Jul 21, 2024 @ 3:43am 
Easiest buff would be that red orbs just drop for enemies killed in general, not just the ones you finish off.
Right now i prefer to just solo content instead of partying with her due to his.
Siameasy Jul 21, 2024 @ 3:54am 
she def needs a buff. killing hard mode bosses in 10s - 20s solo using infinite masacre is not nearly fast enough :steamfacepalm:

Not to mention theres an exploitable end game build that literally one shots bosses using a sniper rifle. she's broken af when you get certain red skill mods.
dAsh Jul 21, 2024 @ 4:03am 
Originally posted by Tahl:
Originally posted by Levihime:
Just use "Steal HP" Module. Its gold module to heal at 12% max hp after killing an enemy with a 2 sec CD at max lvl.
That requires mob kills and doesnt effect the number of orbs dropped for her passive.
It would actually be better if her kit disabled that and normal pickups in favor of synergy healing.
Like using frenzy to dps while building her 'mana' bar then dropping frenzy to consume the bar for actual hp. Or something along those lines. God, its actually harder to NOT come up with infinite ways she could have been done better.
so is gley not worth leveling? just unlocked ultimate. very sad about the 1s shot nerf :( the word nerfing should be banned in this game.
Tahl Jul 21, 2024 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by dAsh:
Originally posted by Tahl:
That requires mob kills and doesnt effect the number of orbs dropped for her passive.
It would actually be better if her kit disabled that and normal pickups in favor of synergy healing.
Like using frenzy to dps while building her 'mana' bar then dropping frenzy to consume the bar for actual hp. Or something along those lines. God, its actually harder to NOT come up with infinite ways she could have been done better.
so is gley not worth leveling? just unlocked ultimate. very sad about the 1s shot nerf :( the word nerfing should be banned in this game.
Well, she still functions. In as much as anything that can hold a gun in a shooter functions but that is what itl come down to. Being marginally better at shooting things.
Its just that her abilities hardly feel worth the effort/animation time.
If youv already got her Id level her. Its something to do until you figure out what your next goal is.

Plus, she will probably be buffed/reworked at some point.
I highly doubt a game like this, being out for only a month-ish, has achieved its final evolution.
I just hope its sooner rather than later.
Poljanan Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:19am 
Fell for the Gley hype and well. She works in where she matters, which is activating frenzy to punch through shielded enemies and spamming her 3rd skill for free ammo. However, in nearly all scenarios her power of life orbs are practically unobtainable, because bunnies will be killing every single mob in sight before you can even get to them, meaning you can't use her 2nd and 4th skill at all, and with no adds to farm these orbs in colossus battles, you can't use these skills there either. It doesn't help that massacre has so low ammo.

Also, she barely speaks in battle. I'm not sure if she's bugged, missing her voicelines, or she's just this boring.
Last edited by Poljanan; Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:21am
Licher.Rus Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:29am 
Regular Gley is good
But Ultimate Gley is frkn OP
76561197988918266 Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:52am 
haha hp collector goes brrr
Necro-Drake Jul 27, 2024 @ 4:33am 
Not saying she can't be op if built right, just that her kit is a little funky and her orbs passive and the abilities that feed off of that are extremely inconsistent and inconvenient due to how they work, especially if you go into a boss fight without a completely kitted out Gley that rocket spams.

Felt waaayyy better in the beta, but I understand why they changed her from what she was then... just want her whole kit to function and not a specific part of it.
CDS Jul 27, 2024 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Tahl:
Originally posted by k !:
lol no its not
It is until you prove otherwise. Ill be waiting.
He is right, it still exists. Noone needs to prove anything to you. If you can build it use ur brain and do it. If not, couldnt care less...
Rocket spam build sux anyway. There are much better weapons that profit from infinite ammo spam.
Tahl Jul 27, 2024 @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by CDS:
Originally posted by Tahl:
It is until you prove otherwise. Ill be waiting.
He is right, it still exists. Noone needs to prove anything to you. If you can build it use ur brain and do it. If not, couldnt care less...
Rocket spam build sux anyway. There are much better weapons that profit from infinite ammo spam.
-Twas the other guy necroing, nvm*
Love it when some idiot pretends not to care while actively inserting themselves into an argument they apparently didnt even understand, to post none info and tell everyone how much they really actually totally seriously dont even care...

Not to even mention literally backing up exactly what I said...
Originally posted by CDS:
Rocket spam build sux anyway.--
Last edited by Tahl; Jul 27, 2024 @ 5:42am
LuciferSynd Jul 27, 2024 @ 5:52am 
Sounds like a skill issue to me. My Gley melts bosses.
Build her up properly and she's a powerhouse.
Duskyer Jul 27, 2024 @ 6:04am 
Regen would be nice just in general for all characters. Maybe a module or something. Lifesteal would also be nice.
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Date Posted: Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:02am
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