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Necro-Drake Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:02am
Gley is Confusing
(Firstly, I know Gley got hit with the nerf bat, though I'm unsure how hard they beat her with it and that might have had an effect on her kit.)

Playing her, her kit feels a little wonky... like un-optimized. Her base form is supposed to be slightly more tanky, with a sleight damage reduction and better healing over her frenzied form, but the only noticeable difference I saw was that she heals a lot more from health packs. Her Frenzied form feels like it should do more, with the healing reduction being a big negative compared to her actual benefits. The "Power of Life" orbs feel like they should also heal more than they do as not having shields and spending your life to actually activate your abilities drains you pretty good early on.

Boss fights are a PAIN. The health drops from minions decrease to an eighth as frequent as they are in the open world and it feels like this also includes the "Power of Life" orbs as they appear to drop way less frequently. This puts Gley in a very bad spot as every other character has a regenerating shield that they can manage and energy that they can spend on abilities (with the energy drops seemingly not decreasing), giving them longevity in such a fight. Gley, on the other hand, has to play a lot safer and use their abilities sparingly to both keep up their HP and the "Power of Life" resource.

Not to mention that that leveling doesn't seem to affect her frenzied ability at all, as its level gets raised but nothing happens. The only modifier from mods/items that seemed to affect it is cooldown reduction, but that literally only shows up in its stats and has no bearing on your ability to use it as I can literally spam it, eating away small chunks of HP just for activating it.

It looks like they were trying to make a Beserker character that would wade into the fray, managing her HP by swapping frenzy and getting her unique healing Item, while using her abilities strategically. She would use a high risk, high reward kind of playstyle since her major resource is her HP and her secondary resource can only be obtained from killing.

Instead, She feels kinda lackluster, as what she gives up isn't balanced by what she gains, and the playstyle that feels like it would fit her would mostly get you killed fairly easily.
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VeronaKate Jul 9, 2024 @ 9:31pm 
Not to mention you do not get those orbs if you aren't landing hits . So if your playing Gley and your not landing hits because other players are running around in that match destroying everything before you can even get your stacks built up its just no fun . Really love how this game Gives you a super op character for free that destroys everything but yet those you work , grind or pay for are the ones getting the short end of the stick .

I really hope They buff gley . For long as she is in the party those orbs drop from players killing in the party based on a 30-60% This is where the problem with her is atm . Cannot get those orbs if other classes that are not her are destroying everything . If there 2 bunnies in party with max radius effect and full shock buff you can forget it ! Your just not going to get those orbs to stack up .

The best solution to me is to buff everyone else . That would bring in more players and scatter out a variety for all the characters .
Synthx Jul 9, 2024 @ 9:38pm 
Gley is op once you get her running with the infinite rocket spam
[SHH] Unreal4Real Jul 10, 2024 @ 10:57am 
I concur. I like Gley but the nerfs were too much. The very short infinite ammo spam is useful but her overall survivability is bad.

There needs to be some automatic healing over time or an alternative. When frenzied the life orb drops are very poor and health becomes an issue fast.
feline (Banned) Jul 10, 2024 @ 11:10am 
is nerf rage predator from warframe just get hit here - _ - ? I wonder. I just spend 3k crad to get gray outfit but . its gonna got nerf hu - _ - ?

and Its on PVE too . not even have PVP content. Not even have scoreboard. - _ -

no cheer </3 meow
mykidsnamedme Jul 10, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by VeronaKate:
Not to mention you do not get those orbs if you aren't landing hits . So if your playing Gley and your not landing hits because other players are running around in that match destroying everything before you can even get your stacks built up its just no fun . Really love how this game Gives you a super op character for free that destroys everything but yet those you work , grind or pay for are the ones getting the short end of the stick .

I really hope They buff gley . For long as she is in the party those orbs drop from players killing in the party based on a 30-60% This is where the problem with her is atm . Cannot get those orbs if other classes that are not her are destroying everything . If there 2 bunnies in party with max radius effect and full shock buff you can forget it ! Your just not going to get those orbs to stack up .

The best solution to me is to buff everyone else . That would bring in more players and scatter out a variety for all the characters .

100% agree I had 2 Bunny's in a group trying to level Gley..........did not go well didn't even get 5 orbs the whole OP :steamsad:
Frieren Jul 10, 2024 @ 1:23pm 
Was in a Party with Gley, she would just spam her rocket launcher ability at the cluster of enemies killing them all, carried all 3 of us Solo from level 1 to level 38 Void Experiment.
I have Gley and Ult Gley and have leveled both to 40 and yes I can say she's a bit weird to play. I still haven't really mastered it and I know I probably annoy people with the rockets but it does do the job.
RedFaster Jul 10, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
They need to add a nonzero value of passive health regeneration to this game. Chasing red blobs on the floor is really outdated gameplay.
Originally posted by RedFaster:
They need to add a nonzero value of passive health regeneration to this game. Chasing red blobs on the floor is really outdated gameplay.
Ya i'm not a fan of that either.
Necro-Drake Jul 11, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by youmustbebornagain777:
Originally posted by RedFaster:
They need to add a nonzero value of passive health regeneration to this game. Chasing red blobs on the floor is really outdated gameplay.
Ya i'm not a fan of that either.
Ya... I'd say the most annoying thing about her kit are the red orbs. If they were more consistent, it feel 100% better, but at the moment they heal too little and appear to infrequently during fights that actually matter. Buff these in one form or another and she'd at least feel a lot better to play.

To those who talk about her being broken with rocket spam, that's literally an endgame build. I would expect most endgame builds to be busted in one form or another and is no reason for a nerf, especially since many other endgame builds seem to have to hyper focus less to be just as effective. Heck, most people are complaining about Bunny right now because she can effectively nuke wide areas of the play field.

Also, we really don't need nerfs in a PVE game... especially on a character that has to hyper focus this hard to be effective. "How about buffs on other characters and changing up how the bosses work? No? Probably because its harder to buff characters reasonably or fix boss balance and its a lot easier to nerf problem characters into the dirt... :("

Thats kinda how you kill fun for people in games like this. You end up hyper focusing on characters people like to their detriment, instead of making other characters more interesting/better or changing up how the world interacts with those characters and making things more interesting instead of just changing numbers around.
Tahl Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:51am 
Welp, the rocket spam is gone. Even more of an outcast now.

Personally Id rework her almost entirely. Give her base regen starting out as low as possible.
Then ramp it up with aggressive gameplay. Kill more, weakspot hits, whatever works = more regen. While playing on the side lines yields less.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ metal detector style mini game of fishing around for orbs all while the best parts of her kit either dont work outright or get nerfed into obscurity, Im currently sad I wasted the last month farming her.
k ! Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Tahl:
Welp, the rocket spam is gone. Even more of an outcast now.

Personally Id rework her almost entirely. Give her base regen starting out as low as possible.
Then ramp it up with aggressive gameplay. Kill more, weakspot hits, whatever works = more regen. While playing on the side lines yields less.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ metal detector style mini game of fishing around for orbs all while the best parts of her kit either dont work outright or get nerfed into obscurity, Im currently sad I wasted the last month farming her.
lol no its not
Tahl Jul 21, 2024 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by k !:
Originally posted by Tahl:
Welp, the rocket spam is gone. Even more of an outcast now.

Personally Id rework her almost entirely. Give her base regen starting out as low as possible.
Then ramp it up with aggressive gameplay. Kill more, weakspot hits, whatever works = more regen. While playing on the side lines yields less.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ metal detector style mini game of fishing around for orbs all while the best parts of her kit either dont work outright or get nerfed into obscurity, Im currently sad I wasted the last month farming her.
lol no its not
It is until you prove otherwise. Ill be waiting.
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Date Posted: Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:02am
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