Comparison First Descendant & Warframe for character upgrade

[Wolfoot]

Just to compare why I put money into warframe and I'm not willing to put money here...

To upgrade a character, first you can add more point to the module pool.
Warframe : Orokin Catalyst (Orokin Reactor for weapon)
Descendant : Energy Activator

Then you can add an affinity to a slot
Warframe : Forma
Descendant : Crystallization Catalyst

Then now, the prices.
- On Warframe everything is 20 shop money = 1.2€. for Forma can cost 2.1€ by 3
- On Descendant, it's 1200 for Energy Activator -> 24€
and 300 Crystallization Catalyst -> 6€

For a character, we need
Warframe : 1 Catalyst and 8 to 10 Forma = 20*11 = 220 which you can get for 17€ pack with some more.
Descendant : 1 Activator and 6-8 Catalyst = 1200+300*8 = 3600 -> 70€

17€ I can buy
70€ I'll buy 1 or 2 another game

Of course we can farm this and take our time in both game, but in warframe, it appeals us to buy, here it says go away.

[kenundrum]

Yes. Nice breakdown. I spent money in Warframe, as I appreciated what they did. Won't spend a dime here, as they are hunting "whales", like mobile apps do.

[Teykila]

8 to 10 forma on a warframe ? the maximum I did was maybe 5.
but yeah, the "forma" in TFD is overpriced in the shop and the craft takes too many materials !!!

[PortalShifter]

TFD is a cash shop with a game attached. Its purpose is to take your money.

Warframe is a game with a cash shop, and player trading. It's superior in every possible aspect.

[OFDetected]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Wolfoot:

Just to compare why I put money into warframe and I'm not willing to put money here...

To upgrade a character, first you can add more point to the module pool.
Warframe : Orokin Catalyst (Orokin Reactor for weapon)
Descendant : Energy Activator

Then you can add an affinity to a slot
Warframe : Forma
Descendant : Crystallization Catalyst

Then now, the prices.
- On Warframe everything is 20 shop money = 1.2€. for Forma can cost 2.1€ by 3
- On Descendant, it's 1200 for Energy Activator -> 24€
and 300 Crystallization Catalyst -> 6€

For a character, we need
Warframe : 1 Catalyst and 8 to 10 Forma = 20*11 = 220 which you can get for 17€ pack with some more.
Descendant : 1 Activator and 6-8 Catalyst = 1200+300*8 = 3600 -> 70€

17€ I can buy
70€ I'll buy 1 or 2 another game

Of course we can farm this and take our time in both game, but in warframe, it appeals us to buy, here it says go away.

It's not as expensive as you say it is... in Warframe.

You are basing your calculations on the smallest platinum bundle AND without discount.

A more accurate assessment would be lets say the 1000 platinum bundle with a coupon for 75% discount(yes DE, unlike Nexon, do that quite often as part of their daily login system). You will essentially get 1000 platinum for € 11.25. When buying the 3 forma bundle which is 35 platinum you will be able to get 1000 / 35 = 28 packs + 20 remaining for one more forma or that's - 28*3 + 1 = 85 forma. Remember you paid € 11.25 ? So that's € 11.25 / 85 = ~ € 0.13 per forma.

And yes you can get an even better deal if you buy the biggest pack which is 4300 platinum with the 75% discount coupon. You are essentially double dipping on getting an innate value of buying the bigger pack AND the bigger the price of that pack is the more you save with the discount, obviously. And you also get some mods but who even cares about that xD

NEXON, take notes xD

[TemplarGFX]

Are your Warframe prices the amounts it costed within the first month of release, or the price they have on stuff after 10 (?) years of being out?

[Danyel]

Indeed exactly what the OP says, my wallet is gonna stay closed cause the prices are stupid and braindead.

[VeraelHasta]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TemplarGFX:

Are your Warframe prices the amounts it costed within the first month of release, or the price they have on stuff after 10 (?) years of being out?

Plat Discount coupons are in the game from 2013.
Catalyst and forma prices didn't change.

So to answer your quesiton - yes. I believe 2013 was still a clsoed beta only.

Btw, I'm a little triggered there. IT IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NEXON. It is not an indie company which could make a mistake or not be good enough. Everything you see in TFD is on purpose and the prices are set by professional money milkers.

[Lyote]

It's worth noting that Warframes have a max capacity of 30.
Matching an Aura will get you 14/18 extra.

Descendants get significantly more baseline capacity in addition to the sub weapon mod also giving 10 (non matched slot) extra.

Currently at MR9 and i get 59 capacity. Still have 11 more capacity to unlock via MR (IIRC, it caps at MR20. Not online currently to double check that)
Meaning that a Descendant with no Activator at MR20 will have more baseline Capacity than a Warframe WITH a potato installed.
That's quite relevant because mods have a comparable capacity cost between games.

The EAs are still prohibitively expensive and should not be, but at the same time, they are not nearly required as much as a Warframe needs a potato to get a functional build going.
Doesn't justify the pricing on them at all, but you shouldn't feel hamstrung for not applying one.

[kenundrum]

I appreciated the research done here. So I will bump this post, so it does not get lost.

[Archony]

Shooters appeared long before Warframe, and Warframe, especially when it first came out, was a very bad shooter that also stole ideas from other shooters? xD At the same time, when he came out, there were no traces of bullets, the glass did not break when shooting. And the guns were copied from other shooters.